X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.213.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4477127 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:51:35 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by yxi11 with SMTP id 11so500723yxi.25 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YAhRqkn0ft6MLRqDiveJli+SHZV0HmZDW29wzOCiPeQ=; b=GvYnK7PhYyAa8BhYzd2+9i7G0gVbeJ8Y5DFT6e62zESufhCx9odBKN5RiF48HQpwtY ZsBKSeCjHsg5g6at1XeNVgwcjGtB/vALWemH3PcBuqOHoe/TBC70Q511q8A+p6D7DIvQ tMdYY/mlmN77v5H0k9weOVSy3ed8NpsfOG2GI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=YVA6hg2rnwowt6O7CV/lAcagTOJ111PwM8zGec76imBLB7eYwoqgQMdARC+m/TGs1l ntOwcP/sOByi/xFns/J/XA9bdH/0wMkIHBv/++KUhiLgtVM0/nrPxef7SHGkRodjIwuS mr/7A5BBMDnJ8v0/1idSWOJH6b2aykDIoTfwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.193.17 with SMTP id v17mr772933anp.206.1285188659589; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.173.137 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=001636c923eb86345c0490df4db2 --001636c923eb86345c0490df4db2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c923eb8634520490df4db1 --001636c923eb8634520490df4db1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, Regarding the rapid wear of belts, I had a similar problem (black dust in the vicinity of the pulleys). Turns out the crank pulley had a lot of rust on it which was acting like sandpaper against the v-belt. Could that be th= e cause of your rapid belt wear? Or, maybe the tension is not tight enough and you're getting slippage. Mark On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ed Anderson wro= te: > Hi Jeff, see Mark's message regarding larger pulley. Regarding belts, I > tried some store-brand belts and went though one In less than 10 hours. = I > now only use GATES belts - the latest one I have on has over 300 hours on= it > and it still look brand new. Sometimes quality does count {:>) > > Ed > > *From:* Jeff Whaley > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator > > Well, I=92m in the survey as NOT MODIFIED. > > Ed, On the same subject, how many hours are you getting out of your > alternator belts? > > I=92ve got about 50 hours on mine and am seeing black powder on the top > cowling underside and the same on the belts. > > And where can I get a 4=94 diameter dual-groove pulley for the rotary? > > I bought one from Racing Beat but it is only about 2.75-3=94 diameter =85= would > like to slow my alternator more. > > Jeff > > > > From: > > "Ed Anderson" > > Subject: > > Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator > > Date: > > Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400 > > To: > > "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > *[image: Message Header]* > > *[image: Undecoded Message]* > > No, Joe, I did not. I had not realized at the time (boy, have I gained a= n > education messing with this alternative engine stuff {:>)) that simply > putting a circuit breaker in the field coil line would not necessarily tu= rn > off the alternator when it was pulled. I have verified that pulling th= e > CB after the alternator is turning does NOT turn it off - at least not mi= ne. > But, I never had an automobile alternator ever run away voltage wise (all > have simply quite producing adequate voltage), so decided to leave well > enough alone. > > I figured my modifications might reduce reliability and never the kind of > problem most feared in aircraft usage, so have not altered/modified it. B= ut, > other's have. It would be interesting to take a survey and find out how > many on the list have or have not modified their alternators. > > Ed > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "josrph berki" > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:14 PM > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator > > *Ed, > > Thanks for the input. Did you modify it at all to remove the regulator o= r > provide for disabling the field? > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" < > eanderson@carolina.rr.com> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:38 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator > > * > > Joe, I still fly with the old standard Rx-7 alternator - have been ever > since I launched in 1998 - never failed so I'm still hauling around about > > *5* > > lbs more weight that I need to. So can't offer you any light weight > solutions. But, there are others that have done research on light weight > alternators whom I'm certain will offer suggestions. > > Ed > > Edward L. Anderson > Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC > 305 Reefton Road > Weddington, NC 28104 > http://www.andersonee.com > http://www.eicommander.com > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "josrph berki" > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:21 PM > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Alternator > > > What alternator is being used on the rotary? With EFI and electronic > > ignition I would think a 60 amp would be suitable. Does anyone have a > > light > > weight small solution? Thanks for any help. > > > > Joe Berki > > Limo EZ > > > > > > *Jeff Whaley* > *Manager, Test and Repair* > > *International Datacasting Corp.* > > *Tele: 613-596-4120 (ext: 2295) > Fax: 613-596-9208* > > www.datacast.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5470 (20100922) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the > addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any > unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our > internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. > --001636c923eb8634520490df4db1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,
=A0
Regarding the rapid wear of belts, I had a similar problem (black dust= in the vicinity of the pulleys).=A0 Turns out the crank pulley had a lot o= f rust on it which was acting like sandpaper against the v-belt.=A0=A0Could= =A0that=A0be the cause of your rapid belt wear?=A0 Or, maybe the tension is= not tight enough and you're getting slippage.=A0
=A0
Mark

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@c= arolina.rr.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff, see Mark's message regarding larger = pulley.=A0 Regarding belts, I tried some store-brand belts and went though = one In less than 10 hours.=A0 I now only use GATES belts - the latest one I= have on has over 300 hours on it and it still look brand new.=A0 Sometimes= quality does count {:>)
=A0
Ed

Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:00 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <= /div>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator

Well, I=92m in the survey as NOT MODIFIED.

Ed, On the same subject, how many hours are you gett= ing out of your alternator belts?

I=92ve got about 50 hours on mine and am seeing blac= k powder on the top cowling underside and the same on the belts.

And where can I get a 4=94 diameter dual-groove pull= ey for the rotary?

I bought one from Racing Beat but it is only about 2= .75-3=94 diameter =85 would like to slow my alternator more.

Jeff

=A0

From:

"Ed Anderson&quo= t; <eande= rson@carolina.rr.com>

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] Re: A= lternator

Date:

Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:2= 2:04 -0400

To:

"Rotary motors i= n aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

3D"Message

3D"Undecoded=

No, Joe, I did not. =A0I had not realized at the time (boy, h= ave I gained an education messing with this alternative engine stuff {:>= )) that simply putting a circuit breaker in the field coil line would not n= ecessarily turn off the alternator when it was pulled. =A0 =A0I have verifi= ed that pulling the CB after the alternator is turning does NOT turn it off= - at least not mine. But, I never had an automobile alternator ever run aw= ay voltage wise (all have simply quite producing adequate voltage), so deci= ded to leave well enough alone.

I figured my modifications might reduce reliability and never the k= ind of problem most feared in aircraft usage, so have not altered/modified = it. But, other's have. =A0It would be interesting to take a survey and = find out how many on the list have or have not modified their alternators.<= /tt>

Ed

------------------------------------------------= --
From: "josrph berki" <jskmberki@windstream.net><= br> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:14 PM
To: "Rotary = motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator

Ed,

Thanks for the = input. =A0Did you modify it at all to remove the regulator or
provide fo= r disabling the field?

Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" <<= a href=3D"mailto:eanderson@carolina.rr.com" target=3D"_blank">eanderson@car= olina.rr.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alter= nator

Joe, I still fly with the old standard Rx-7 alternator - ha= ve been ever
since I launched in 1998 - never failed so I'm still ha= uling around about

5

lbs more weight that I need to. =A0So can't offer you a= ny light weight
solutions. =A0But, there are others that have done resea= rch on light weight
alternators whom I'm certain will offer suggestions.

Ed

E= dward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Roa= d
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.= eicommander.com


-------------------------------------= -------------
From: "josrph berki" <jskmberki@windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:21 PM
To: "Rotary motors in air= craft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Alternato= r

> What alternator is being used on the rotary? =A0With EFI and elect= ronic
> ignition I would think a 60 amp would be suitable. =A0Does an= yone have a
> light
> weight small solution? =A0Thanks for any = help.
>
> Joe Berki
> Limo EZ

=A0

=A0

Jeff Whaley
Manager, Test a= nd Repair

International Dat= acasting Corp.

Tele: 613-596-412= 0 (ext: 2295)
Fax:=A0 613-596-9208

www.datacast.com

=A0



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