X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.125] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with SMTP id 4477107 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:21:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.125; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: (qmail 35852 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2010 20:21:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1285186874; bh=Lt7KFEKIE6pknETdHfTrQtM4+e2KHBCCXH5hAJxesMw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yxXAXkHbno2DPxVG1v6P4qPcA+It6lKarGYnoOntOCmv5GIOkfPPar6H3QuD/4IVmbACKRy5rE/rlF1XgOEy2RoI1Yk8XFh7g9xQnIFEA3XaKeMkoWEepyDMzPRGaeZAWGSyAdJVb0DHbnGQv62FnlAHbx5qXPbyMOdyNH/KK0U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CBfvP+mJoVFdUJDR0NlCnYA/tpVSLNu1LFvjrgfEt1qHCrwX5qe+h0nHnty5NnN0yXDlS0zStD5kxQUxV7d6As/b+guinGj6Lzxj8vB8exIn7fi72lcRChkbVutsBkwZISNTvC0Vm5frliIn9OkWfrhWpH+STvtKl+BCIGkuyCs=; Message-ID: <448608.35835.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PnCi2q4VM1m5tSjah_vC2_VUATO7ui74vlFLf1oG0Gpy47e XNYV4UIRDlwzNEZuqkxkP2RPD9tE6h_s5NmibXoww2cFpe26MSLmEjDsbqkO KnOrHu5gkEm_4lEPn7dQe06fN6F.14InaRkKKa4GdGe8FpxxKB3_srgXGyXB 9A2DCXIAoAdpcVHA9PYoPZFZtyVkpCf8OHLNcms03LuhatYqn6MnHtbIc9FZ 6AXDn2BNC5z6ILw09y0n2zbaeiEIU3rCnHAmU_P.V6JcH0G3V.XDGDUmYwWT 8_SGvLdh0mpQGFjV_1LV5xFrWfDA0Tw-- Received: from [208.114.41.208] by web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:21:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/497 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 13:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: Alternator To: Rotary motors in aircraft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1983864458-1285186873=:35835" --0-1983864458-1285186873=:35835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Group,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Addendum to last post.........The 75-209 pulley= is 3.25 in diameter and is =0Aabout $35.00 but=0Athe 75-208=C2=A0is 5.0 in= ch=C2=A0in diameter=C2=A0about $65.00 and is currently $20.00 on =0Acloseou= t..........=0AKelly Troyer=0A"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2=0A"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________= _____________=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer =0ATo: Rotary motors in = aircraft =0ASent: Wed, September 22, 2010 3:11= :04 PM=0ASubject: Re: Alternator=0A=0A=0AMark and All,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0 Just = checked with Canton Racing.........The 5 inch V belt pulley =0Acurrently=C2= =A0lists for $64.50=0Abut they have them on closeout for $20.00 plus UPS...= .........They have 9 of =0Athem left after=0AMy order for one..............= Not trying to messup your sale Mark but thought =0Aothers of the =0A=0Agrou= p might need one...........FWIW............=0A=0Ahttp://www.cantonracing.co= m/=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0Kelly Troyer=0A"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C= /EC2/EM2=0A"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________= ________________=0AFrom: Mark Steitle =0ATo: Rotary mot= ors in aircraft =0ASent: Wed, September 22, 20= 10 1:18:31 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator=0A=0A=0AJeff, =0A=0AI b= ought a pair of single vee pulleys from Canton Racing =0A(http://www.canton= racing.com/).=C2=A0 I used their p/n 75-209 for the Mitsubishi 15mm =0Ashaf= t alternator ($38.40/ea).=C2=A0 It is black hard anodized aluminum. =C2=A0I= have since =0Aswitched to serpentine pulleys, so I don't need=C2=A0it any = longer.=C2=A0 So, if you're =0Ainterested, contact me off line.=0A=0AMark= =C2=A0 =0A(msteitle at gmail dot com)=0A=0AOn Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM= , Jeff Whaley wrote:=0A=0AWell, I=E2=80=99m in the s= urvey as NOT MODIFIED.=0A>Ed, On the same subject, how many hours are you g= etting out of your alternator =0A>belts?=0A>I=E2=80=99ve got about 50 hours= on mine and am seeing black powder on the top cowling =0A>underside and th= e same on the belts.=0A>And where can I get a 4=E2=80=9D diameter dual-groo= ve pulley for the rotary?=0A>I bought one from Racing Beat but it is only a= bout 2.75-3=E2=80=9D diameter =E2=80=A6 would like =0A>to slow my alternato= r more.=0A>Jeff=0A>=C2=A0=0A>From: "Ed Anderson" =0A>Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator =0A>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22= :22:04 -0400 =0A>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =0A>=0A> =0A>No, Joe, I did not. =C2=A0I had not realized at the time= (boy, have I gained an =0A>education messing with this alternative engine = stuff {:>)) that simply putting a =0A>circuit breaker in the field coil lin= e would not necessarily turn off the =0A>alternator when it was pulled. =C2= =A0 =C2=A0I have verified that pulling the CB after the =0A>alternator is t= urning does NOT turn it off - at least not mine. But, I never had =0A>an au= tomobile alternator ever run away voltage wise (all have simply quite =0A>p= roducing adequate voltage), so decided to leave well enough alone.=0A>=0A>I= figured my modifications might reduce reliability and never the kind of = =0A>problem most feared in aircraft usage, so have not altered/modified it.= But, =0A>other's have. =C2=A0It would be interesting to take a survey and = find out how many on =0A>the list have or have not modified their alternato= rs.=0A>=0A>Ed=0A>=0A>--------------------------------------------------=0A>= From: "josrph berki" =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September= 21, 2010 7:14 PM=0A>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator=0A>Ed,=0A>=0A>Thanks for the= input. =C2=A0Did you modify it at all to remove the regulator or=0A>provid= e for disabling the field?=0A>=0A>Joe=0A>----- Original Message ----- From:= "Ed Anderson" =0A>To: "Rotary motors in aircraf= t" =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:38 = PM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator=0A>=0A>=0A>Joe, I still fly with = the old standard Rx-7 alternator - have been ever=0A>since I launched in 19= 98 - never failed so I'm still hauling around about=0A>5=0A>lbs more weight= that I need to. =C2=A0So can't offer you any light weight=0A>solutions. = =C2=A0But, there are others that have done research on light weight=0A>alte= rnators whom I'm certain will offer suggestions.=0A>=0A>Ed=0A>=0A>Edward L.= Anderson=0A>Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC=0A>305 Reefton Road=0A>Wed= dington, NC 28104=0A>http://www.andersonee.com=0A>http://www.eicommander.co= m=0A>=0A>=0A>--------------------------------------------------=0A>From: "j= osrph berki" =0A>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 201= 0 6:21 PM=0A>To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" = =0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Alternator=0A>=0A>> What alternator is being used = on the rotary? =C2=A0With EFI and electronic=0A>> ignition I would think a = 60 amp would be suitable. =C2=A0Does anyone have a=0A>> light=0A>> weight s= mall solution? =C2=A0Thanks for any help.=0A>>=0A>> Joe Berki=0A>> Limo EZ = =0A>=C2=A0=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Jeff Whaley=0A>Manager, Test and Repair=0A>Internat= ional Datacasting Corp.=0A>Tele: 613-596-4120 (ext: 2295)=0A>Fax:=C2=A0 613= -596-9208=0A>www.datacast.com=0A>=C2=A0=0A>=0A>__________ Information from = ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature =0A>database 5470 (2010092= 2) __________=0A>=0A>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.=0A>= =0A>http://www.eset.com/=0A>=0A>This message, and the documents attached he= reto, is intended only for the =0A>addressee and may contain privileged or = confidential information. Any =0A>unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohi= bited. If you have received this =0A>message in error, please notify us imm= ediately so that we may correct our =0A>internal records. Please then delet= e the original message. Thank you.=0A>=0Aark --0-1983864458-1285186873=:35835 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="0-33189197-1285186873=:35835" --0-33189197-1285186873=:35835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Group,
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    Addendum to = last post.........The 75-209 pulley is 3.25 in diameter and is about $35.00= but
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the 75-208 is 5.0 inch in diameter about $= 65.00 and is currently $20.00 on closeout..........
=0A
 Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"= Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A

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=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrota= ry@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 3:11:04 PM
Subject: Re: Alternator

=0A
=0A
=0A=
Mark and All,
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   Just checked with Canton Racin= g.........The 5 inch V belt pulley currently lists for $64.50
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but they have them on closeout for $20.00 plus UPS............They hav= e 9 of them left after
=0A
My order for one..............Not tryin= g to messup your sale Mark but thought others of the
=0A
group mi= ght need one...........FWIW............
=0A
 
=0A
ht= tp://www.cantonracing.com/
=0A
  
Kelly Troyer
"= Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/= Oil Manifold =0A

=0A

=0A
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=0AFrom: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline= .net>
Sent: Wed, Sept= ember 22, 2010 1:18:31 PM
Subject:<= /SPAN> [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator

=0A
Jeff,
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=0A
I bought a pair of single vee pulleys from Canton = Racing (http://www.cantonracing.com/).  I used their p/n 75-209 for th= e Mitsubishi 15mm shaft alternator ($38.40/ea).  It is black hard anod= ized aluminum.  I have since switched to serpentine pulleys, so I don'= t need it any longer.  So, if you're interested, contact me off l= ine.
=0A
 
=0A
Mark 
(msteitle at gmail dot= com)
=0A
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:00 PM= , Jeff Whaley <jwhal= ey@datacast.com> wrote:
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Well, I=E2= =80=99m in the survey as NOT MODIFIED.

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Ed, On th= e same subject, how many hours are you getting out of your alternator belts= ?

=0A

I=E2=80=99ve got about 50 hours on mine and am= seeing black powder on the top cowling underside and the same on the belts= .

=0A

And where can I get a 4=E2=80=9D diameter dual= -groove pulley for the rotary?

=0A

I bought one from= Racing Beat but it is only about 2.75-3=E2=80=9D diameter =E2=80=A6 would = like to slow my alternator more.

=0A

Jeff

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From:

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"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

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<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Subject:

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Re: [FlyRo= tary] Re: Alternator

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Date:

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Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400

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No, Joe, I did not.  I had not realized at th= e time (boy, have I gained an education messing with this alternative engin= e stuff {:>)) that simply putting a circuit breaker in the field coil li= ne would not necessarily turn off the alternator when it was pulled.  =  I have verified that pulling the CB after the alternator is turning = does NOT turn it off - at least not mine. But, I never had an automobile al= ternator ever run away voltage wise (all have simply quite producing adequa= te voltage), so decided to leave well enough alone.

I figured my modifications might reduce re= liability and never the kind of problem most feared in aircraft usage, so h= ave not altered/modified it. But, other's have.  It would be interesti= ng to take a survey and find out how many on the list have or have not modi= fied their alternators.

Ed

--------------------------= ------------------------
From: "josrph berki" <jskmberki@windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:14 PM
To: "Rotary motors i= n aircraft" <flyrotary= @lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator<= /TT>

=0A

Ed,

Thanks for the input.  Did you= modify it at all to remove the regulator or
provide for disabling the f= ield?

Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com&g= t;
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, Sept= ember 21, 2010 6:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator

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Joe, I sti= ll fly with the old standard Rx-7 alternator - have been ever
since I la= unched in 1998 - never failed so I'm still hauling around about

= =0A

5

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lbs more weight that I need to.  So can't offer y= ou any light weight
solutions.  But, there are others that have don= e research on light weight
alternators whom I'm certain will offer sugge= stions.

Ed

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterpri= ses LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.anderson= ee.com
http://www.eicommander.com


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From: "josrph berki" <= ;jskmberki@windstream.net&g= t;
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:21 PM
To: "Rotary motors in ai= rcraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Alternator<= BR>
> What alternator is being used on the rotary?  With EFI and= electronic
> ignition I would think a 60 amp would be suitable. &nbs= p;Does anyone have a
> light
> weight small solution?  Tha= nks for any help.
>
> Joe Berki
> Limo EZ

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Je= ff Whaley
= Manager, Test and Repair

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International Datacasting Corp.

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Tele: 613-596-4120 (ext: 2295)
Fax:  613-596-9208

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www.datacast.com

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