Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52130
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Timing
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:16:01 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 Hmmm...

I've seen a variation on that technique for piston engines using a probe in the spark plug hole, but I'm having a hard time seeing how it would work on a rotary. If you do it using just one plug hole, wouldn't that put the center of the rotor face over that plug's hole? Or is that TDC, or is there some geometric characteristic of the rotary gear train that moves the TDC point?

Would the technique work if you used *both* plug locations, & approached one in the forward direction & the other in reverse rotation?

Charlie


On 9/16/2010 1:46 PM, Mark Steitle wrote:
Brian,

I was curious, have you verified that the timing mark you believe to be TDC is actually TDC?  I recall it being mentioned before that you can't rely on the timing marks on the pulleys as sometimes pulleys get swapped from one engine to another and may not match up correctly.  I feel it is worth checking.  Lynn H. has described how to locate TDC (check archives).  Basically, you remove the leading plug on #1 rotor, rotate crank until you see an apex seal in the center of the hole, put a mark on the flywheel (use a temporary pointer for a reference point).  Then reverse rotation until you see another apex seal in the center of the hole, put a 2nd mark on the flywheel.  Now split the difference between the two marks and that should be TDC.  Check that it matches the mark on your pulley.

Mark S.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM, <bktrub@aol.com <mailto:bktrub@aol.com>> wrote:

    I've got a 74 x88 catto. The Co was a result of the band clamp not
    sealing completely, but I was going to change to 321 or Inconel
    any way, so I figured I'd do it now and be done with it. I wanted
    to be absolutely sure my timing was correct before going any
    further down the tunig road. I checked the timing yesterday, and I
    was getting the leading plug firing about 10 degrees in advance of
    those two timing marks lining up at 1400 rpm. I adjusted it so
    that it is now dead on at 1400 rpm. I set it there as a reference,
    it's easy to change in Mode 8. There's no reason to go any further
    in the tuning department unless I can be assured that the timing
    is correct. I've got a factory manual, but have not found any
    reference to the timng marks or exactly what they signify.
    Brian Trubee



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Don Walker <drwalker@gbis.com <mailto:drwalker@gbis.com>>
    To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net
    <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>>
    Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 11:14 am
    Subject: [FlyRotary] Timing

    Brian,
      Timing is one of the few things I didn't have to mess with. Once
    all the other problems were taken care of and the CAS was spaced
    correctly, the engine started and ran fine. What a day! I am using
    the EC-2 default setting for the renesis as programed by Tracy and
    have not even paid much attention to it or even checked it. Good
    luck on your next flight. I assume you are using the EM-2 and
    EC-2. What prop are you using? You make a good point on checking
    for CO. I just have one of those stick on cards and should borrow
    a real meter as I am running SS flex tube also.
    Don
    RV-8 renesis 76/88 cato

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