X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.213.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4469592 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:47:28 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.180; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by yxi11 with SMTP id 11so833468yxi.25 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=E3XIxpIx23EOHaVP2MvKextst6avofTWzSpLorqcqV0=; b=EmlfrLmrOD+nKgMQRyUZofM8CNLBWUoELBUt6Yb391E//rpwPOsbuXk2R/Q0lgENxl ZmKBJZbJkiPMvjkW0W/HVxh/Vkwre+3G0QWumij0JpDNCfrvy8kKBbaTTqFZsZaM6Hwd HZSIT1wM//wpqflIhW4Lp680CK1Im6D79H7Jc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OxOWOS1K+JQ8Oo+oWPDUsN+82RqTHy10H6kFTWTfvJUbtYs0LfOO466BybKGdJnBkf y1Ez+n1Hhe/JuEwEzKLLni1yHnCdCO52tuy+CmoWoFup8yPR8MpEZaH3IUWQiV7+j+Gt Tp5AdXjX2BkXtiV25flpNkAPBcdYhh8/goew4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.90.5 with SMTP id n5mr2170897agb.153.1284662810371; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.173.137 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:46:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:46:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Timing From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e8816780f86049064de93 --0016361e8816780f86049064de93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Brian, I was curious, have you verified that the timing mark you believe to be TDC is actually TDC? I recall it being mentioned before that you can't rely on the timing marks on the pulleys as sometimes pulleys get swapped from one engine to another and may not match up correctly. I feel it is worth checking. Lynn H. has described how to locate TDC (check archives). Basically, you remove the leading plug on #1 rotor, rotate crank until you see an apex seal in the center of the hole, put a mark on the flywheel (use a temporary pointer for a reference point). Then reverse rotation until you see another apex seal in the center of the hole, put a 2nd mark on the flywheel. Now split the difference between the two marks and that should be TDC. Check that it matches the mark on your pulley. Mark S. On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM, wrote: > I've got a 74 x88 catto. The Co was a result of the band clamp not sealing > completely, but I was going to change to 321 or Inconel any way, so I > figured I'd do it now and be done with it. I wanted to be absolutely sure my > timing was correct before going any further down the tunig road. I checked > the timing yesterday, and I was getting the leading plug firing about 10 > degrees in advance of those two timing marks lining up at 1400 rpm. I > adjusted it so that it is now dead on at 1400 rpm. I set it there as a > reference, it's easy to change in Mode 8. There's no reason to go any > further in the tuning department unless I can be assured that the timing is > correct. I've got a factory manual, but have not found any reference to the > timng marks or exactly what they signify. > > Brian Trubee > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Walker > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 11:14 am > Subject: [FlyRotary] Timing > > Brian, > Timing is one of the few things I didn't have to mess with. Once all the > other problems were taken care of and the CAS was spaced correctly, the > engine started and ran fine. What a day! I am using the EC-2 default setting > for the renesis as programed by Tracy and have not even paid much attention > to it or even checked it. Good luck on your next flight. I assume you are > using the EM-2 and EC-2. What prop are you using? You make a good point on > checking for CO. I just have one of those stick on cards and should borrow a > real meter as I am running SS flex tube also. > Don > RV-8 renesis 76/88 cato > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0016361e8816780f86049064de93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian,

I was curious, have you verified that the timing = mark you believe to be TDC is actually TDC? =A0I recall it being mentioned = before that you can't rely on the timing marks on the pulleys as someti= mes pulleys get swapped from one engine to another and may not match up cor= rectly. =A0I feel it is worth checking. =A0Lynn H. has described how to loc= ate TDC (check archives). =A0Basically, you remove the leading plug on #1 r= otor, rotate crank until you see an apex seal in the center of the hole, pu= t a mark on the flywheel (use a temporary pointer for a reference point). = =A0Then reverse rotation until you see another apex seal in the center of t= he hole, put a 2nd mark on the flywheel. =A0Now split the difference betwee= n the two marks and that should be TDC. =A0Check that it matches the mark o= n your pulley. =A0

Mark S.=A0

On Thu, Se= p 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM, <bktrub@aol.com> wrote:
I've got a 74 x88 catto. The Co was a result of the band clamp not= sealing completely, but I was going to change to 321 or Inconel any way, s= o I figured I'd do it now and be done with it. I wanted to be absolutel= y sure my timing was correct before going any further down the tunig road. = I checked the timing yesterday, and I was getting the leading plug firing a= bout 10 degrees in advance of those two timing marks lining up at 1400 rpm.= I adjusted it so that it is now dead on at 1400 rpm. I set it there as a r= eference, it's easy to change in Mode 8. There's no reason to go an= y further in the tuning department unless I can be assured that the timing = is correct. I've got a factory manual, but have not found any reference= to the timng marks or exactly what they signify.
=A0
Brian Trubee



-----= Original Message-----
From: Don Walker <drwalker@gbis.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 11:14 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Timing

Brian,=A0
=A0 Timing is one of the few things I didn't have to mess with. Once al= l the other problems were taken care of and the CAS was spaced correctly, t= he engine started and ran fine. What a day! I am using the EC-2 default set= ting for the renesis as programed by Tracy and have not even paid much atte= ntion to it or even checked it. Good luck on your next flight. I assume you= are using the EM-2 and EC-2. What prop are you using? You make a good poin= t on checking for CO. I just have one of those stick on cards and should bo= rrow a real meter as I am running SS flex tube also.=A0
Don=A0
RV-8 renesis 76/88 cato=A0
=A0
--=A0
Homepage: http://ww= w.flyrotary.com/=A0
Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/fly= rotary/List.html=A0

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