X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [97.64.187.19] (HELO dsmdc-mail-smtp.mcomdc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.9) with ESMTP id 4465661 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:30:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=97.64.187.19; envelope-from=btilley@mchsi.com Received: from [10.76.136.10] ([166.137.137.167]) by dsmdc-mail-bxga3 with bizsmtp id 6PcJ1f00E3ct0CN01PcVjX; Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:36:46 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=0dUtO5G3YOTcUrtWNSXgAwEq9VS4eeu6IZlyszXjiCI= c=1 sm=1 a=hmS0IqpM3eMA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=AN6pR1NffiVFCQUgyf8quQ==:17 a=Ru4pdRO3AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=mUtRyyFtUGNcT4_QjT0A:9 a=aKJjkvqVvlj9Rx2sSUQA:7 a=7epdyuw-K-YTCMMsM_UvDlGbGPgA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=sCLL6JyKcusA:10 a=DO6XDhkFlJwA:10 a=mKGrxlpNpUgA:10 a=EOo9I7zVdCoA:10 a=_qCSxWOD4OsA:10 a=RKuqVI9elIgA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=CwCl9lC6CvEA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AN6pR1NffiVFCQUgyf8quQ==:117 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New rotary Cozy IV builder References: From: Bob Tilley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A306) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <78D7AC0A-10B8-4C6C-A6E3-8C4AFD123080@mchsi.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:29:58 -0500 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A306) Eric If you are going to use a Mazda rotary, the oil pressure is to high and pul= sating to use! Unless you use another pump to pump it out of the oil pan to t= he heater. The engine oil pump will eat up most every flexible line or coil y= ou might use. Bob Tilley Baton Rouge On Sep 13, 2010, at 4:39 PM, "Eric Deslauriers" wrote: > I did a bit of reading on many on the car forum (read diesel and hybrids),= and the consensus on these boards is that 12V electric heating does not wor= k. Plus the draw on the electric system is very high. But I will monitor you= r progress for sure. >=20 > But, I was thinking of running 1/2" flexible aluminum tubing (will probabl= y need to be insulated?) from the engine compartment to the nose section to i= nstall an oil radiator core and blower there. Exactly like it's shown in the= Aerocanard video (lines glasses to the inside of both fuselage sides). >=20 > If I were to use coolant and not oil, what size/type of lines should I use= ? And are 1/2" line for oil adequate? If not what would be an ideal setup fo= r someone using a radiator (coolant or oil? What line size/type?, etc.)? >=20 > I really appreciate the help (guess it not the last time I use this line := -) ) >=20 > Eric Deslauriers, CMA > Directeur principal / Senior Manager > Juricomptabilit=C3=A9 et =C3=A9valuation d'entreprises / Forensic accounti= ng and business valuation > Demers Beaulne S.E.N.C.R.L. > 1100, boul Ren=C3=A9-L=C3=A9vesque Ouest, 20i=C3=A8me =C3=A9tage > Montr=C3=A9al (Qu=C3=A9bec) H3B 4N4 > T=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone : (514) 878-0290 > Mobile : (514) 887-2136 > T=C3=A9l=C3=A9copieur : (514) 874-0319 > mailto:edeslauriers@demersbeaulne.com > http://www.demersbeaulne.com >=20 >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] De la p= art de Ernest Christley > Envoy=C3=A9 : 13 septembre 2010 16:31 > =C3=80 : Rotary motors in aircraft > Objet : [FlyRotary] Re: New rotary Cozy IV builder >=20 > John Slade wrote: >> Something like this: >> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=3D12v+ceramic+heater&hl=3Den&cid= =3D12874249802847341330&ei=3D94GOTLWcA6DOwQXgnu2cBA&sa=3Dtitle&ved=3D0CAcQ8w= IwADgA#p=20 >> >>=20 >> Chad Robinson is installing a couple of these. I will probably get=20 >> something similar. >=20 > 300 watts. That's going to be 20 to 25 amps, depending on what your=20 > regulator is set to, and will still only give 1/4 of what the typical=20 > hair dryer delivers. Probably a minor issue if the heat can be trapped=20= > in that insulated tube called a Cozy cockpit, but close to useless=20 > otherwise. I have found the defrost to be MUCH more important than=20 > cabin heat. The defrost of the Cherokee I trained in could barely keep=20= > up with the chill of a North Carolina morning, and made finding the=20 > airport "interesting" (wipe/scan......wipe/scan....wipe). >=20 > My solution for my Delta was to pull heat off the oil cooler. A movable=20= > panel blocks part of the air in the exit duct and forces it through the=20= > cabin through SCEET hoses. Vents are located in what I hope are optimal=20= > defrosting positions. >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html