Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52098
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Scheduled hose replacement
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:40:22 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 Yes, there is occasionally method to my madness.

I figured Ed had you beat, but I'm pretty sure there's someone else with even more hours, if not calendar time, on high quality automotive hoses.

Charlie

On 9/13/2010 2:33 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
'Frad not Dave,
My SS radiator hoses (AN-16) have over 10 years on them - no replacement, no leaks (so far).  However, were I to do it again, I would probably not go SS due to cost and weight - but reliability has been absolutely great.
Ed
Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com

*From:* David Leonard <mailto:wdleonard@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 3:19 PM
*To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
*Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Scheduled hose replacement



On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net <mailto:ceengland@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

     On 9/13/2010 1:02 PM, David Leonard wrote:



           *The radiator manufacturer will have a maximum number based
        on how

           stiff the flat sided tubes are. Too much pressure rounds those
           tubes and then pulls them loose from the fins when pressure is
           removed. Also the rounded tubes slow airflow through the
        radiator. *
           *Racing radiators tend to have higher pressure ratings than
        auto
           radiators. *
           *Most racers run 16 to 22 pound caps. Higher pressure means
        higher
           boiling temp for the coolant.  Also more stress on the
           connections. With a 2" hose and 22 pounds you have just
        about 70
           pounds trying to pull the hose off of the fitting. With
        silicone
           hose and safety wired clamps it would not be a factor. That
        does
           not include Chinese replica clamps. Just real American made
        name
           brand clamps. You can also use real aircraft quality clamps
           already drilled for safety wire. *
           *Many modern cars use no pressure cap. Just a sealing
        filler cap
           on a make up bottle.*
           *An air space above the coolant level provides a volume of
        air to
           compress to control the pressure. If the moron at the gas
        station
           fills that bottle all the way up while reading the message
        on the
           bottle not to fill above this line,*
           *the end tank will blow off of the radiator just like on my
        wife's
           car. *
           **
           *The 22 pound cap is middle ground, a bit more insurance, not
           likely to hurt the radiator. *
           **
           *I use 22 pounds. Distilled water with 10% glycol and either
           Redline Water Wetter or 1/2 teaspoon full of dish washing
           detergent. It is gentle on the hands. Never a problem since
        1980.*
           *Lynn E. Hanover*


        Hey Lynn and the rest of you smart guys, What is your opinion
        on scheduled hose replacement?  My plane has been flying for 6
        years now and I just finished the annual.  I decided that 6
        years was long enough on some of my radiator hose and decided
        to replace it.  In particular, I ordered up the AN-16 steel
        braided hose (Earls Perform-o-flex)  for my coolant out line
        but I just couldn't bear the thought of cutting and fitting
        that stuff and hoping I don't get leaks or damage the AN hose
        fittings or cut my fingers to shreds.  So I decided the
        current hoses were good for another year.  Maybe a
        justification...

        Opinions on scheduled replacement of SS hose?

        --         David Leonard

        Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
        http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net <http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/>
        http://RotaryRoster.net <http://rotaryroster.net/>

    I would copy the guy with the most trouble free hours on his
    coolant hoses. :-)

    Charlie

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Nice Charlie,

For braided SS in aircraft use, that might be me..  Guess I just keep going until I land on another highway...  ;-)
-- David Leonard

Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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