Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52089
From: <shipchief@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:53:11 -0400
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Yay Brian!!
I'm watching you while I build away! Test flying a new plane and new engine is a lot to deal with. I'm relieved that you found it on the ground.



-----Original Message-----
From: bktrub@aol.com
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 8:16 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight

Was it the restrictive air filter? No. Was it tuning? No. Was it a restrictive exhaust? No. Was it the stupid $@%^& spring that I used to pull the throttle open in case of a broken  cable? Uh -huh!  Re-configured it, now, instead of getting 4400 RPM and 100 hp, I get 5600 and 190 hp on a static ground run. The brakes can barely hold the plane back at full throttle on pavement.

Next flight should be on tuesday. 

Brian Trubee



-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 12, 2010 10:04 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight

Brian, If using the 2.85:1 then 4800 rpm is definitely on the low side, Tracy was referring to his rpm of 4800 when using the 2.71:1.  With my old 13B and a 2.85:1, I get 6000 rpm static with a 75x88 prop, so I would say you need to be above 5500 rpm.  I think you stated you reached that with the cowl off. 
 
 Check and make certain that there are not any intake hoses to/from the throttle body that can collapse or close/clamp down.  I know of one situation where an air filter apparently cause just enough lower pressure in an intake to cause the intake hose the builder was using from TB to manifold to crush and restrict air flow.   Once the filter was removed the problem would clear up - it took longer than you might think to discover that was the problem.
 
So if you can get 5500 rpm without cowl and only 4800 with cowl/filter - something is a miss.
 
At 4800 rpm 14.7:1 air fuel ratio, you are making around   115 Hp,   assuming you have it rich (12.65:1) then its around 130 HP.  I flew on around 130 Hp for the first year or so it took me to get my problem identified and fixed.  The RV will fly fine (if a little lacking in performance on take off and climb) on 130 HP, my top speed was 186 MPH - not steriling for an RV but better than most single engine certified by far.
 
Go get'er done
 
Ed

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:00 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: First flight

I'm using the 2.85 to one, I'll try some tuning first before I remove the air filter. It's easier to turn a know than to remove the air filter. I'm pretty sure I'm running way too rich.
 
Brian Trubee
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