Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #49225
From: Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.com>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Vacuum System Regulation Basics
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:38:46 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Yes Ed, I put the restriction between the inlet and the suction gauge … thinking this would reduce the venturi’s ability to “suck” … I knew from the results that the restriction was wrong, but now with your explanation I understand why.  Thanks.

Jeff

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Vacuum System Regulation Basics

 

As you know,  there is no such thing as “suction” – it’s just if one volume has less pressure than another connecting volume then the one with the high pressure pushes toward the one with the lower pressure.  This might give the impression that the one is “sucking”, but its really the other (higher pressure one ) pushing.

 

So with your venture tube (Bernoulli effect) is creating an area of lower pressure in the venture tube.  Since the pressure there is less than in your hose, the air flows from you cabin through your vacuum gyros and vacuum gauge to the venture tube.  Any restriction between your cabin and the venture tube will reduce the air flow into the hose thereby reducing the amount of air in the hose and therefore the associated pressure.

 

You didn’t state where in the system you put the restriction, but if you put between you cabin inlet and before your vacuum gauge, then in effect you are restricting the flow of air from your cabin (higher pressure) into the vacuum system.  Therefore there is less air in that hose volume that there was before and therefore less pressure and your gauge reads lower pressure (more suction {:>). 

 

Well, at least that’s the way it looks to me – but then I’m an electron guy.

 

Ed

 

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:11 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Vacuum System Regulation Basics

 

Can anyone explain the following:

I have a 9” venturi on side of fuselage – connected with a 3/8” hose, the suction gauge reads 9”.  This is too much for gyros, so I put a restrictor in the line expecting to get less vacuum – instead it goes to >10”.  This would imply that if hose was larger, vacuum would be less.

If I was to install a regulator should it go between venturi and gauges? or after gauges between them and filter?

I’m getting the feeling that a regulator is actually a “controlled leak” – adjusted by a needle-valve? True or False?

If True, it would make sense to put a controlled leak between venturi and gauges, as any dust would get sucked out of cabin without passing through gauges.

Jeff

 



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