X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from lrcmmta08-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.17) with ESMTP id 3911387 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:08:53 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.80; envelope-from=jskmberki@windstream.net Return-Path: X-WS-COS: WSOB804 X-Cloudmark-Category: Undefined:Undefined X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=FRSxLf81FVT/shLfTArFrYyh4FLChm2DGJNegR1kWe0= c=1 sm=0 a=ZHA5efE08SkA:10 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=nqBOx7y0BmF9acIsvtUA:9 a=OWzFtWHiK2Ygm0uzjU4A:7 a=rELB0lajawCswmXJPwaXIFlKsE8A:4 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=SH8JmOWPpSx7mPciVa4A:9 a=ZbEtM0ieN6JbXn9KGn0A:7 a=JRJ_g-EEHMALidcuLeX0qjj56_gA:4 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=gVOElJS5rm+PJrtvZTBJ0w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Authentication-Results: lrcmmta08 smtp.user=jskmberki; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [174.130.123.219] ([174.130.123.219:61765] helo=joehomepc) by lrcmmta08 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.43 r()) with ESMTPA id FB/0E-07193-064ADEA4; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:08:17 -0600 Message-ID: <003001ca5b05$dc102490$01fea8c0@joehomepc> From: "josrph berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilding 2nd gen Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:13:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA5ADB.F293A360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1983 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1983 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA5ADB.F293A360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kelley, I have the 89 rotors but did not clean them up as the one was damaged = but the 88 rotor bathtub is definitely cast. I was going to use the = whole rotating assembly including the stationary gears in the 89 block. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelly Troyer=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilding 2nd gen Joe, As I previously posted the 88 internal parts (rotors & E shaft = can be used as long as you use the 88 counterweights (front and rear)........Just make sure your 88 = rotors are truly 9.4 to 1 compression with the "As Cast" combustion dish and not the 88.5 to 91 rotors with = 9.7 to 1 compression with the "Machined" combustion = dish...............See attached photo to differentiate the two = rotors........... -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from "josrph berki" = : --------------=20 > Hi,=20 > Just was calling on those who might have rebuilt a 13b. I have a = 88 and a=20 > 89. I wanted to use as much of the 89 as possible. When I = disasembled it I=20 > found that one rotor and the rotor housing had been trashed due to = apex seal=20 > expulsion. The width of the housing was also out of spec so it = probably=20 > overheated as well. The other housing and end and intermediate = housings=20 > look great. I found a 89 housing and it is on it's way. If I use = the 89=20 > housings should or could I use the 88 rotors, 88 Eshaft, front = counter=20 > weight, and stationary gears? I will still need to get a flex = plate and a=20 > couter weight for a 88 automatic. As far as the housings for the = 88, the=20 > chrome looked like it was grooved and the end and intermediate = housings=20 > looked pitted. Thanks for any help.=20 >=20 > Joe Berki=20 > Limo EZ=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CA5ADB.F293A360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Thanks Kelley,
 
I have the 89 rotors but did not clean = them up as=20 the one was damaged but the 88 rotor bathtub is definitely = cast.  I=20 was going to use the whole rotating assembly including the stationary = gears in=20 the 89 block.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kelly = Troyer
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 = 9:18=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Rebuilding 2nd=20 gen

Joe,
      As I previously posted the 88 = internal=20 parts (rotors & E shaft can be used as long as you use = the
88 counterweights (front and rear)........Just make sure your 88 = rotors=20 are truly 9.4 to 1 compression
with the "As Cast" combustion dish and not the 88.5 to 91 rotors = with 9.7=20 to 1 compression with the "Machined" combustion dish...............See = attached photo to differentiate the two rotors...........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke = Delta"_13B=20 ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold=20



 
--------------=20 Original message from "josrph berki" = <jskmberki@windstream.net>:=20 --------------


> Hi,
> Just was calling on = those who=20 might have rebuilt a 13b. I have a 88 and a
> 89. I wanted to = use as=20 much of the 89 as possible. When I disasembled it I
> found = that one=20 rotor and the rotor housing had been trashed due to apex seal =
>=20 expulsion. The width of the housing was also out of spec so it = probably=20
> overheated as well. The other housing and end and = intermediate=20 housings
> look great. I found a 89 housing and it is on it's = way. If=20 I use the 89
> housings should or could I use the 88 rotors, = 88=20 Eshaft, front counter
> weight, and stationary gears? I will = still=20 need to get a flex plate and a
> couter weight for a 88 = automatic. As=20 far as the housings for the 88, the
> chrome looked like it = was=20 grooved and the end and intermediate housings
> looked = pitted. Thanks=20 for any help.
>
> Joe Berki
> Limo EZ
> =
>=20
> --
> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
> = Archive=20 and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20

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