Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #48918
From: Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling report
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:13:34 -0300
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thank you for the responses to this problem, I learn something new every time.
 
All I wanted to say with my story is that sometimes the problem is not where you expect it to be.
The Griffin cooler was installed exactly where the RX7 cooler was in the first place.  I replaced the RX7 cooler with the Griffin cooler.  I had to modify the duct to accomodate the larger cooler, otherwise the ducting remained the same.   The first try of the Griffin cooler was without a fan.  Then I tried with the fan -- no difference.  Then I built a oil/water exchanger and installed it in series with the Griffin cooler.   There was some improvement in the oil temp but not enough.  That is when I removed the Griffin cooler and fan and replaced it with the RX7 cooler that I had in there in the first place.  I kept the oil/water exchanger in series, this time with the RX7 cooler.
 
I agree that if air flow was the problem the exit air temp would be high, mine was low.
There is no by-pass air flow, the duct is sealed.
The Griffin cooler, like the RX7 cooler is a double pass with both in/out on one end.
 
Now the story has changed,  last landing I made (oat about 35) the oil and water temp were about 120 deg F  -- too cold for my taste. 
I always wait for the oil to reach 140 deg F before takeoff.  I do not want to run the engine with the oil below that temp.  So I am building louvers to control the air flow to the two radiators.  And that is with the water rad plastered with duct tape and the oil rad air flow restricted to a 12 cu. in. air exit.
 
Rino
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cooling report

Rino, any comments on the Griffin oil cooler location and inlet ducting Vs the RX7 oil cooler location and ducting?

If oil flow was not the problem it must have been air flow.

Jeff

If there was not sufficient air flow, then the air outlet temp would be very high, not very low – unless the temp number is not correct, or there was a great deal of by-pass flow.

 

Re: Here is my fan installation.  It is a 4-blade, pull, high flow, Spall.  The inlet scoop is sealed to the other side of the rad.  I don’t know whether it spins in flight when turned off, but there is no evidence that it does. It works fine after 160 hours in flight. If it is a concern, one could always use a relay that shorts the leads when turned off serve as electromagnetic brake.  A spinning fan would be more restrictive to flow being forced through it than one that is stationary – contrary to one’s intuition.

 

Al

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