X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.25] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3902656 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:07:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.25; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so194124qwd.25 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mikSSk0GbYaL+3WWTgxOx5GguYySW1dW6kg2fI63Ffw=; b=HYwntiih5HrERE5k1tBDXEMtLWcQAv9ztmuCn5XiOJs0IaYw1vbY7X8x72we9JtT3Z aggahUoj2rIXsCov6eqOm3HBM2PpaCMuVBLRqZsFbCYZVe2+9M3z4QA/2nnlKmhGPerF tmcKR9E+H6XcZ6ThO/j6uhnClxGpa0tfcCy0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ej3ts5HTQ7deRVWYQeMdiBRfAAhlWWdh6xMVimZmxYJyfmCiSiJpG9OHJKh2hsVZVB URMByxe+b0k7zZt5ZFhXYaU+9Lf+8EGV7NUCDwAvjtilt6KdX+CfZtdrUneTYANobigA wee8J0qkXyrghG1JFuWaR8GFYIgPN49Dr7EkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.27.152 with SMTP id i24mr9212694qac.269.1256738799114; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:06:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:06:39 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1ccbac4f9417dc8 Message-ID: <1b4b137c0910280706s52e45d7bo31b91e749774bea6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Prop Loads From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f99e29bb25a5d0476ff4da3 --00c09f99e29bb25a5d0476ff4da3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't understand the problem. Why do you care what the prop load is? A dyno is used to measure the engine torque at various rpms so a dyno run is typically done by setting WOT (after warmup at idle of course), starting with enough load to hold engine at minimum rpm of interest then gradually reducing load to allow rpm to rise to maximum rpm of interest. The whole run takes only seconds if all is running well. Your dyno operator will know this (or should). You can calculate prop torque later by multiplying engine torque times redrige ratio. Tracy On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Greg Ward wrote: > Hey Troops; > Finally in the dyno room building the mount plate to begin testing. Tracy > says that the engine should be tested with the prop on, and this is kind of > hard in a dyno room. We are mounting the engine without the PSRU, so that > we don't tear it up in testing, and instead hooking directly to the shaft > which is loaded by means of a water brake. We can put any load on it that > we want, problem is, how to calculate that prop load in foot-pounds, at > different settings. Talked to Craig Cato, and he is leaving for Europe, so > doesn't have time to run the calcs, and I am just a dumb high country > nail-banger. Any thoughts? > Greg Ward > Lancair 20B N178RG in progress > --00c09f99e29bb25a5d0476ff4da3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't understand the problem.=A0 Why do you care what the prop load i= s?=A0 A dyno is used to measure the engine torque at various rpms so a dyno= run is typically done by setting WOT (after warmup at idle of course), sta= rting with enough load to hold engine at minimum rpm of interest then gradu= ally reducing load to allow rpm to rise to maximum rpm of interest.=A0=A0 T= he whole run takes only seconds if all is running well.

Your dyno operator will know this (or should).

You can calculate= prop torque later by multiplying engine torque times redrige ratio.
Tracy

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM,= Greg Ward <gregw@onestopdesign.biz> wrote:
Hey Troops;
Finally in the dyno room building the mount pl= ate to=20 begin testing.=A0 Tracy says that the engine should be tested with the prop= =20 on, and this is kind of hard in a dyno room.=A0 We are mounting the engine= =20 without the PSRU, so that we don't tear it up in testing, and instead h= ooking=20 directly to the shaft which is loaded by means of a water brake.=A0 We can= =20 put any load on it that we want, problem is, how to calculate that prop loa= d in=20 foot-pounds, at different settings.=A0 Talked to Craig Cato, and he is=20 leaving for Europe, so doesn't have time to run the calcs, and I am jus= t a dumb=20 high country nail-banger.=A0 Any thoughts?
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG in=20 progress

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