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From: "George Lendich" <lendich@aanet.com.au>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening
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Ben,
Good work!
You certainly picked up on many of the problems associated with auto =
engine conversions. I particularly like the mixture block for the Holly =
carb.=20
While I was searching for a pen I missed what you said you used for a =
damper - did you say you used a fluid damper ?
George ( down under)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: stephen haas=20
  To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20
  Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:59 AM
  Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening


        This will explain alot... Fire away with any questions.


        =
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-7272451917550730841&hl=3Den#
        --- On Wed, 9/30/09, George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au> =
wrote:


          From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
          Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening
          To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
          Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 7:33 PM


          =EF=BB=BF=20
           Don't be shy Ben - we all ears.
          George ( down under)
                  Hi Jeff and all others. I am a newbie to the group but =
a serious auto engine fanatic. I feel your pain on the cooling issues =
with a "slow" plane.  I can expand on that if you or anyone else is =
interested.

                  Tailwinds.

                  Ben.
                  www.haaspowerair.com

                  --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jeff Whaley =
<jwhaley@datacast.com> wrote:


                    From: Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.com>
                    Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Quiet is Deafening
                    To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
                    Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:02 AM


                    I guess some people must actually be flying =
=E2=80=A6

                    Personally, I=E2=80=99m almost ready to fly again =
after another round of modifications to oil cooling system.  My slow, =
105 mph airplane is having difficulty keeping the oil temperature below =
redline (210F) above 4000 rpm.  Have added a second oil cooler - now =
have one each side of engine, similar-looking to dual evaporator cores =
(for water) in RVs.  Since I can=E2=80=99t cruise at 160 mph have =
decided that 2x surface area is needed to make up for 1.6x airspeed.

                    Jeff=20

                    =20

                    From: Rotary motors in aircraft =
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
                    Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:16 AM
                    To: Rotary motors in aircraft
                    Subject: [FlyRotary] Quiet is Deafening

                    =20

                    Anyone out there ??.....................<:)

                    --
                    Kelly Troyer=20
                    "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20
                    "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20
                    "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20






                      -------------- Original message from "Patrick =
Panzera" <panzera@experimental-aviation.com>: --------------=20

                      Hey gang!=20

                      =20

                      I came across a rare find this weekend.=20

                      Any serious rotorhead will certainly appreciate =
this.=20

                      =20

                      Bluelines from 1973 of the General Motors Wankel =
Rotary engine.=20

                      =20

                      I just put them up on eBay=20

                      =20

                      http://tinyurl.com/GM-Rotary-drawings=20

                      =20

                      Pat=20

                      =20
                =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ben,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good work!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You certainly picked up on many of the =
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block=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>George ( down under)</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dadmin@haaspowerair.com =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 01, =
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        <DIV>This will explain alot... Fire away with any =
questions.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><BR><A=20
        =
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                  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                  <DIV>Tailwinds.</DIV>
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                  <DIV>Ben.</DIV>
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                  =
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engine,=20
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decided that 2x=20
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airspeed.</SPAN>
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                    Rotary motors in aircraft=20
                    [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] <B>On Behalf Of =

                    </B>Kelly Troyer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
September 30,=20
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                    Troyer <BR>"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20
                    <BR>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 <BR>"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil =
Manifold=20
                    <BR><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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                      <DIV></DIV>
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                      came across a rare find this weekend.</SPAN>=20
                      <DIV></DIV>
                      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
                      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; =
FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial', 'sans-serif'">Any=20
                      serious rotorhead will certainly appreciate =
this.</SPAN>=20
                      <DIV></DIV>
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                      just put them up on eBay</SPAN>=20
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                      =
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