X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.221.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3837650 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:39:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.181; envelope-from=cozy4pilot@gmail.com Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so1437450qyk.1 for ; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:38:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=7DvOAPbWsMFfuCGo1eOjIZdzqGHHNEKFiENs3DGFMPk=; b=bMFVYfMXeKd8QZ14FqpVVZWUDi5NM+mYhTS6JMCafeXDBv0xoggWunvvlZ0SZjhpBJ 9MGnbLin0d4rZBm0Qk3XYGNCTQa5/iCi4RE1jjKXgzxYqjyqEhATk/fIVfa2+Pv1w7ur ydYedhSjnrlwzjBAZFSHkcnRyIFoETKkSqLyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=reply-to:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=gFz4zPoyIHUVRnAr0GnO3eSGx88yzUS7YdWhpALFKK6hYhBHbNyGesPG30axaYsNkn xJdc0Ub7edYINETmRH11fWMy/SKaPbM1qPnwEIrUrop6gA7tgCXwPRFiNNTjXOhRSrP3 s9ozXLDGH5sUBcIiwnvUB/xgJ3WK0fIDF2eE4= Received: by 10.224.36.89 with SMTP id s25mr8161985qad.5.1252150735886; Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from HomePC (nc-71-49-37-79.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.49.37.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm1216792qyk.15.2009.09.05.04.38.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Brooks" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Vinay Ester resins Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 07:38:37 -0400 Message-ID: <003c01ca2e1d$69cbbe90$3d633bb0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acotg4F+M1z/uFq6RXykEYEz1GmDlQAmLffg Content-Language: en-us John, Sounds like you came out pretty good considering, and good news on you moving back to Florida. I read a previous email about your issue with the fuel tanks, so I checked mine, and didn't see an issues so far. I used MGS 285 epoxy, but on the fuel tanks, I also coated them with the Jeffco sealant. So far I have not had any issues with that, but I am keeping a close eye on it. I am transporting the plane home this morning for the addition of the EM3, and swapping out the engine core with one I just rebuilt. The engine in there now became increasingly hard to start, and there is a ticking sound that didn't used to be there. I had some detonation issues a while back, and suspect that I broke a seal, though compression doesn't show much wrong. I also want to do some paint touchup while I have it home also. Regards, Steve Brooks Cozy N75CZ -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of John Slade Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Vinay Ester resins You're welcome. You may also find this info about using the stuff helpful: http://forum.canardaviation.com/showthread.php?t=4675&highlight=vinyl+ester David Moyer wrote: > Thank you very much that will be helpful in my fuel tanks in my Cozy. > Glad to hear you and the plane are doing well. > > David Moyer > > > > John Slade wrote: >> Steve, >> The stuff I used is was from http://www.fibreglast.com. They're >> 1110/69-A Vinyl Ester Resin system is used for underground fuel pipes >> and in aerospace fuel applications. They claim that it's highly >> resistant to ethanol and other gas additives whatever the percentage >> mix. Its early days, but I've had no problems with it so far. >> John >> >> Steve Thomas wrote: >>> Jim, >>> >>> A couple of questions for you: >>> >>> 1. How is the vinyl ester holding up to the ethanol? Do you have >>> any ability to inspect the tank interior? >>> 2. Do you know the percentage of ethanol in the gas you are using? >>> Here in California it is currently 4.7%, scheduled to go up to 10% >>> in the near future. >>> 3. Do you recall what formula of vinyl-ester you used? 411-350? >>> 411-45? Other? >>> >>> There is still a great debate on how ethanol affects even vinyl >>> ester. I would really appreciate knowing more about your >>> experience. The Ashland Derakane Chemical Resistance Guide says >>> that the 411 series of vinyl esters are safe up to 10% ethanol. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Steve Thomas >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:17 AM, James Maher wrote: >>> >>>> I've since switched to a vinyl ester tank. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> Dyke Delta N11XD >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html