Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2892234 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 15 Dec 2003 19:35:17 -0500 Received: from rv8 (12-225-206-211.client.attbi.com[12.225.206.211]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003121600351601100i75t2e> (Authid: n3773@comcast.net); Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:35:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002d01c3c36c$786cb3e0$d3cee10c@rv8> Reply-To: "kevin lane" From: "kevin lane" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel System Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 16:35:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C3C329.6873C980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C3C329.6873C980 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002A_01C3C329.6873C980" ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C3C329.6873C980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you run the right tank dry, how long does it take the pump to fill = the right tank enough to get the engine restarted? isn't there a lot of = air involved in the lines? mine takes but a few seconds because I am = switching to a tank with fuel in it. with my system you get a second = chance after the engine coughs for lack of fuel. the first cough tends = to really wake you up and get you thinking. I have 1000hrs on mine so = the 240 hr. argument doesn't work :-) (just joking, not making enemies) Kevin Lane Portland, OR e-mail-> n3773@comcast.net web-> http://home.comcast.net/~n3773 (browse w/ internet explorer) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Eslick=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel System Joe, This was as simple as I could come up with. Has worked fine for = 240 Hrs. No selectors to forget. I have a 3-minute timer on the = transfer pump which transfers 1 gal/min, and just punch the button when = 3 gal will put me back in lateral trim. (I also have a panel switch to = turn the pump on if needed, but I was always forgetting to turn it OFF = when the fuel was balanced.) =20 I always plan my flying as if I only have what is in the right = tank, so if rough terrain approaches, there tends to be more than an = equal amount in the right tank. With this system, you can drain the = left tank completely, and then if the engine coughs, you KNOW you have = used it all! I only use both pumps for takeoff and landing. I always cruise = on the same one, so the other pump/filter gets very little use. That = becomes my spare if the main pump or filter takes early retirement. =20 Bill Eslick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Joseph Berki" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:20 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Fuel System > I am still looking at different designs for a fuel system. AC = has two > separate tanks. Since we are using two rotors is it possible = to split the > fuel rail into two rails and have one of the returns plumbed = to the port > tank and the other plumbed to the starboard tank? Any problems = splitting > the fuel rail? Just a crazy idea. > > Joe Berki > LimoEZ >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html . =20 =20 =20 ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C3C329.6873C980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
if you run = the right tank=20 dry, how long does it take the pump to fill the right tank enough to get = the=20 engine restarted? isn't there a lot of air involved in the lines?=20  mine takes but a few seconds because I am switching to a tank with = fuel in=20 it.  with my system you get a second chance after the engine coughs = for=20 lack of fuel.  the first cough tends to really wake you up and get = you=20 thinking. I have 1000hrs on mine so the 240 hr. argument doesn't work = :-) =20 (just joking, not making enemies)
Kevin Lane  Portland, OR
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bill = Eslick=20
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 = 2:47=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel=20 System

Joe,
 
This was as simple as I could come up with.  Has = worked fine=20 for 240 Hrs.  No selectors to forget.  I have a = 3-minute timer=20 on the transfer pump which transfers 1 gal/min, and just punch = the=20 button when 3 gal will put me back in lateral trim.  (I = also have a=20 panel switch to turn the pump on if needed, but I was always = forgetting=20 to turn it OFF when the fuel was balanced.) 
 
I always plan my flying as if I only have what is in the = right=20 tank, so if rough terrain approaches, there tends to be more = than an=20 equal amount in the right tank.  With this system, you can = drain=20 the left tank completely, and then if the engine coughs, = you KNOW=20 you have used it all!
 
I only use both pumps for takeoff and landing.  I = always=20 cruise on the same one, so the other pump/filter gets very = little=20 use.  That becomes my spare if the main pump or filter = takes early=20 retirement. 
 
Bill Eslick
 
 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Berki" = <joseph.berki@grc.nasa.gov&g= t;
To:=20 "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:=20 Monday, December 15, 2003 4:20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Fuel=20 System


> I am still looking at different designs = for a=20 fuel system. AC has two
> separate tanks. Since we are = using two=20 rotors is it possible to split the
> fuel rail into two = rails and=20 have one of the returns plumbed to the port
> tank and the = other=20 plumbed to the starboard tank? Any problems splitting
> = the fuel=20 rail? Just a crazy idea.
>
> Joe Berki
>=20 LimoEZ

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