Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #46933
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Potential Low range MCT (MAP) Problem on EC3/Ec2
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:24:45 -0400
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

I happened to be reading the EC3 operating manual – doesn’t everyone do this for pleasure reading{:>)? When I came across something that may explain something that Joe and I observed (and may have played a role in the hard to start problem we initially encountered (after the CAS wiring problem was fixed)

 

Joe has the later version of the EC2 where the lower rpm operating of the fuel MAP  (or more correctly the MCT - Map Correction Table), where the common assumption/understanding  is that the operating point below 2300 rpm is based solely on rpm.  Turn’s out that assumption  is not quite correct per this extract from the EC3 manual.

 

EC3  Mixture Correction Table addressing  is illustrated on the following page.  Note that below 2300 rpm and 13” manifold pressure (absolute), the MCT address is a function of rpm as opposed to manifold pressure.   If you have an EM2 engine monitor to display the data, you can use a copy of this chart to record your table data after the engine is tuned


 

 

Not that there are two conditions that must be met before the EC3/EC2 uses only rpm to determine the lower operating point.  The engine rpm must be below 2300 AND the manifold pressure must be below 13” Hg.  So that implies that if you are operating at 2000 rpm, but your manifold pressure is at 13.5 or 14 or higher then the EC2 is using the manifold pressure to determine the operating point and not the rpm.

 

So lets say you are trying to start your engine – rpm < 2300 but manifold pressure > 13.  Therefore the MCT pointer may be pointing to the bin corresponding to a manifold pressure that is close to ambient (29.92” Hg).  That is also the point for WOT throttle (Lots of fuel).  So its safe to say that on the first turn of the prop that is where your Ec3/2 is at.  The instance the engine fires, the manifold pressure immediately begins to drop – how fast it drops will depend in part on what throttle setting you have.  If you throttle is closed, the manifold pressure will almost immediately drop to low values (presumably below 13” hg) and all is well.  If however, your throttle is set at ¼ or more open, then the manifold pressure is not as likely to drop below 13” hg.  If this is the case, then the operating point is going to be based on manifold pressure which may be considerably above 13” Hg.  That point in turn may be overly rich for idle conditions and your engine fails to sustain operation do to excess fuel and floods.

 

Tracy, of course, may have algorithms to deal with this, but based solely on the comments in the manual – looks like this could happen.  Particularly in the early stages, before you get the MCT tuned.

 

Thought I would pass  this on – my older EC2 only uses manifold pressure across the entire range.

 

Ed

Ed Anderson

Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered

Matthews, NC

eanderson@carolina.rr.com

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