X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3744869 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:39:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.64; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BsXP1c0021ZMdJ4A7seajd; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:38:34 +0000 Received: from osd1 ([24.6.75.252]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Bsg41c00K5ScAtC8csg47m; Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:40:05 +0000 Message-ID: <288D7EB232614510B1D4C5760095C4A7@yosemite.onestopdesign.biz> From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire Shield or Heat Sheild [FlyRotary] Re: P MAlternator Project Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:49:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Is Anti-Freeze flammable???? Greg Ward Lancair 20B in progress ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Christley" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fire Shield or Heat Sheild [FlyRotary] Re: P MAlternator Project > Bob Perkinson wrote: >> The best fire suppression system is just plane water. Before I >> retired we replaced all of our CO2 fire suppression systems with high >> press. water mist. 30 gal of water replaced 6 150# CO2 bottles. The >> idea is the water will spray out in a fine mist and instantly turn to >> steam, this removes the heat from the combustion and also displaces >> the air. I know that displacing the air would be hard to do in a >> moving aircraft but removing the heat would definitely put out the >> fire if the mist were spraying on and in the area of the exhaust this >> may prevent what ever fluid is leaking from re-combustion. A high >> press. water system big enough to be able to do this would be weighty >> and take up a considerable amount of room (Water container + high >> press. gas cylinder plus high press piping and spray nozzles.) I am >> not sure how to figure the btu's stored in the exhaust system, but >> fairly sure that it would be a function of the mass of the eshaust >> system and the temp. of the metal, this would dictate how much water >> would be neede to remove this heat. Water would have to be kept above >> freezing, this throws another kink in the logestics of this type of >> system. >> Somone out there may have an idea on this and how to make this a >> practical system. >> >> Bob P. > > Most of us rotary guys already carry a water reservoir that is protected > from freezing. If your engine compartment is on fire, you probably > won't be overly concerned with the internals of your engine getting to > hot. > > You just need a way to mist the water. I suggest an unregulated fuel > pump into some metal tubing and out through three or four strategically > placed agricultural misting nozzles. > > The cooling system only uses a few quarts, but how many do you need once > you cut the fuel supply? > > -- > > http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >