Return-Path: Received: from mxsf22.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.222] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2870055 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:21:16 -0500 Received: from dell (c68.187.32.48.ts46v-21.grnbry.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [68.187.32.48]) by mxsf22.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id hB74JTFO085351 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:19:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from n268bl@charter.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FD2A9C6.000007.99503@dell.WorkGroup> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:17:10 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_MWBIWCW0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1850931) From: "Bill Eslick" References: X-FID: BA285063-5BCE-11D4-AF8D-0050DAC67E11 X-FVER: X-FIT: X-FCOL: X-FCAT: X-FDIS: X-BG: X-BGT: repeat X-BGC: #eff3f7 X-BGPX: left X-BGPY: 0px X-ASN: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASNF: 0 X-ASH: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASHF: 1 X-AN: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ANF: 0 X-AP: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-APF: 1 X-AD: C3C52140-4147-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ADF: 0 X-AUTO: X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: spray bars --------------Boundary-00=_MWBIWCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_MWBIRN00000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_MWBIRN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D Bill Eslick wrote:=0D > FWIW........... I installed a "mister" nozzle ahead of one of my =0D > evaporator cores. I have temperature sensors (cht probes) at the exit =0D > of each radiator, so I can read differences in delta T between the two.= =0D > =0D > I used a 30 psi pump from a motor home water system. On the hottest of = =0D > days (all summer in Texas), the most benefit I ever saw was 1 to 2 =0D > degrees. I'm sure this could be improved with more nozzles, better =0D > placement, etc., but I had much more success with modifying the cowl fl= ap.=0D =0D =0D Can you estimate how much water you were pumping into the plenum? =0D As I remember, it was probably only about a quart per takeoff.=0D =0D =46rom Ed's earlier postings on the amount of thermal energy needed to vaporize =0D a set amount of water, I would say the success or failure of a mister =0D would depend on how much water it pumped. The volume of water is what =0D removes the heat, the misting only makes it more efficient.=0D Right. I never really got any serious quantitative research done before going to the cowl flap. It is just another consumable that is better don= e without if possible.=0D =0D When you say, "the exit of each radiator", is that measuring the cooling = =0D temp or the exit air? I'm assuming the former, but I'm not sure.=0D Someday I plan to write clearly, but not yet. :-) The exit temp is the coolant temp. I just compare it to the "coolant temp" which is taken jus= t prior to the coolant heading for the radiators. Sorry.=0D =0D Veeduber --------------Boundary-00=_MWBIRN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Bill Eslick wrote:
> FWIW........... I installed a "mist= er" nozzle ahead of one of my
> evaporator cores. I have temperatu= re sensors (cht probes) at the exit
> of each radiator, so I can r= ead differences in delta T between the two.
>
> I used a 30 = psi pump from a motor home water system. On the hottest of
> days = (all summer in Texas), the most benefit I ever saw was 1 to 2
> de= grees. I'm sure this could be improved with more nozzles, better
>= placement, etc., but I had much more success with modifying the cowl fla= p.
 

Can you estimate how much water you were pumping into the plenum= ?
As I remember, it was probably only about a qu= art per takeoff.
 
From Ed's earlier postings on the amount of thermal energy needed to= vaporize
a set amount of water, I would say the success or failure o= f a mister
would depend on how much water it pumped. The volume of wa= ter is what
removes the heat, the misting only makes it more efficien= t.
Right.  I never really got any serious qu= antitative research done before going to the cowl flap.  It is just = another consumable that is better done without if possible.
When you say, "the exit of each radiator", is that measuring the cooling=
temp or the exit air? I'm assuming the former, but I'm not sure.
Someday I plan to write clearly, but not yet. = :-)  The exit temp is the coolant temp.  I just compare it to t= he "coolant temp" which is taken just prior to the coolant heading for th= e radiators.  Sorry.
 
Veeduber

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