X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3646831 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 May 2009 10:50:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from [192.168.0.19] (really [66.57.38.121]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090519145021280.HRAO9927@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 14:50:21 +0000 Message-ID: <4A12C743.3030202@nc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:50:43 -0400 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Phonic Band gap filter References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Lendich wrote: > Al, > I would off- set the tubes, the idea is to not have a direct path for > the sound waves to travel in a direct line, front to back (path of > least resistance) make them stainless and of a reasonable thickness. > George (down under) George, we're skinning a different cat here. We can actually have a completely see-through muffler. The idea is to control interference patterns so that certain frequencies are canceled. The dimensions are critical to determining what frequencies are canceled, and the depth and width of the band gap is heavily influenced by the difference in Young's Modulus between the two materials. The greater the difference, the more pronounced the effect. My ultimate goal is a stainless box using .050" material. It takes about 10ft of tube to make what you saw in the pictures. I think the technique will be to make a box, then drill the hole pattern all the way through. Push a tube into each hole, and then weld the tube to the box on both sides. With this constructions, air can flow through the tubes to keep the steel strong and help cool the exhaust. I did just think of something. My experiment wasn't as valid as it could have been. I should have run a test with just the filter box in place. That is, the wooden box with the filter elements removed. It could have been the box had more to do with the results than the filter elements. I'll update you when I've run another test. -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org