Maybe there is a way to get both. This is the first results from my experiments with bandgap filters that I just did today. http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Experiments/PhononicBandgapFilter.html Ernest; How are you defining 'filling fraction' ? Al -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html