Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #43657
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuild
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:01:54 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I won't bore you gentlemen by whinning on how I lost 3 years worth of
rotary emails thanks to consumers Power Co. but I have. I didn't bother to actually learn any of this because I planned on being able to look up all the posts I had in separate files for every item on the engine. My how things can change in 1 minute :(((

Now I need to compile a list of what I need to ask to have done to my RX-8 4-port engine to convert it to aircraft use. Including what flex plate etc. It will be P-ported and hopefully use the bell housing being developed on the "other" site. Unfortunately, many things on the "other" site have gotten part way through development and fallen off the table so we shall see :(

If you gentlemen would be so kind as to just throw up a short list of things you personally would have done I can compile a good list.

Thank you very much,

Randy

Yes Randy, Larry's bellhousing is very good indeed - take it from someone who has been through the exercise twice before. The biggest benefit is that he can produce a very controlled mould and maintain the wall thickness to the minimum. This is a good subject to bring up on this site, so more builders are aware of it.

BTW your not on your lonesome - we have all lost good info over the years to computer crashers.

For the RX8 I might look at a smaller inlet opening (44mm) if you intend to use the RX8 apex seals. The seals are shorter in height and my tend to flex (over the open hole) and go out of the inlet. Don't expect too much from the Rx8 in regard to power as the very complex inlet manifold optimumized the tuned effect and you can't use it in an aircraft as it's too high. You should expect to see the same as you would get out of an RX7.
Hope that helps.
George

Hi George;
I continue to hear this story about apex seals falling into the intake and exhaust.
There are almost 25 year old engines still running over stock ~1.9 inch Pport exhausts (Far worse than the intake)
with the old 3-piece seals.  Even worse would be the 2.5"? RacingBeat Pports.
Do you know of any specific failure cases?


Cheers
Cary

Cary,
I understand your argument and I know of no specific case - neither am I willing to take the chance. A smaller PP might be worth considering the stock RX8 apex seals. Mazda went away from the 3 piece seals for reasons of strength. I actually cut 3mm seal slots into my RX8 rotor. Again their stronger and I'm running them over 44mm PP.
George (down under)




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