X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3046384 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:37:18 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.56; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vg6G1Z0060cZkys56gcguP; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:36:40 +0000 Received: from gregoryii ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vgcf1Z0070dkeQQ3WgcfYe; Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:36:40 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jRonYQOeN-3rhy5QXCMA:9 a=CR0juBedzw7N2FOsXPgA:9 a=EWaKDX4W1WQmKRfB3REA:7 a=IVceze4l62plGG2lEU4ZGapAxagA:4 a=RMBU5szJeCoA:10 a=wAXCB8UNsYbwsBY6EzMA:9 a=AeeUc1Bq3QbLXhyb8-oA:9 a=48ot-XvJArb86NjDeI4A:7 a=Sq8DudT5f8htGxUhAioG0RCoM3oA:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety wire Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:41:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0445_01C8F0FA.B73E41E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0445_01C8F0FA.B73E41E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same here, I've gone over each and every bolt in the whole AC, not just = firewall forward, at least twice. I used the blue and red Loctite where = appropriate, and plan on wiring the prop assembly for sure. One rule I = ran into was only use a locknut twice, and then throw it away, not sure = if it's good rule, but then nuts are cheap. Greg Ward Lancair 20B N178RG in progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety wire Al, you mention that you don't have anything safety wired and haven't = experienced anything important coming lose in a car. I have and it was = very important. It was a tube and o-ring related to the coolant system = that was held into the block by one bolt. Needless to say the one bolt = backed out, I lost coolant over heated and I pulled over to the side of the road. I cannot pull over in a plane. Don't misunderstand. I'm not arguing the point nor suggesting = carelessness. Did you put in the bolt on your car that came out? I'll = bet not. I considered every fastener in the engine compartment and = torqued and/or locked as I deemed necessary. I exercised care and = engineering judgment. There are lock nuts and lock washers as needed. = The pan bolts have lock washers. The oil drain is a tapered pipe thread = - no way that is coming lose. I have also periodically checked every = bolt, nut, or plug, hose clamp, screw, whatever; and none have ever = loosened - so I'm quite happy with it. Your mileage may vary. Al G ------=_NextPart_000_0445_01C8F0FA.B73E41E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Same here, I've gone over each and every bolt in = the whole=20 AC, not just firewall forward, at least twice.  I used the blue and = red=20 Loctite where appropriate, and plan on wiring the prop assembly for = sure. =20 One rule I ran into was only use a locknut twice, and then throw it = away, not=20 sure if it's good rule, but then nuts are cheap.
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG in progress
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 = 10:05=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Safety = wire

Al, you mention that you don't have anything = safety=20 wired and haven't experienced anything important coming lose in a = car.  I=20 have and it was very important. It was a tube and o-ring related to = the=20 coolant system that was held into the block by one bolt.  = Needless to say=20 the one bolt backed out, I lost coolant over heated and = I

 pulled over to the side of the = road.  I=20 cannot pull over in a plane.

 

Don=92t=20 misunderstand.  I=92m not arguing the point nor suggesting=20 carelessness.  Did you put in the bolt on your car that came out? =  I=92ll bet not.  I considered every fastener in the engine=20 compartment and torqued and/or locked as I deemed necessary. I = exercised care=20 and engineering judgment. There are lock nuts and lock washers as = needed. The=20 pan bolts have lock washers. The oil drain is a tapered pipe thread = =96 no way=20 that is coming lose.  I have also periodically checked every = bolt, nut,=20 or plug, hose clamp, screw, whatever; and none have ever loosened =96 = so I=92m=20 quite happy with it.  Your mileage may vary.

 

Al=20 G

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