X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3045006 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:33:26 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.200.172; envelope-from=lehanover@gmail.com Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so3636634wfg.25 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:32:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=JrEtQUJo4d5xrDPB7zac9muOisSHCPauBLQl7PdIoBc=; b=HFDtE93k/1TN+h/LeAm2K04plKYzwajslxzR/D/z7K9cbfGvV96wofPKkW4ooupWJN POyXCSgOs+TLX0tYaGG/EWze+U/t63O2T+mrnIdiXw4GFLXzznFWeBnYweL7/5Yxz7vX /Bxjh/4lnL34Z0Ou0RSR46ZW5e02nt3F0q/6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=eyTF3dZAa1PrmriPi+VCmGSaDx6HGqncajBrs206GZJT3w5Bm2AVu5OqkfChsDYPDr lPX3vIXEQHG/3/yaFHVeGlaxTTkiyk4qMHU7Tv7wKiAXYCWvjycUFWrqmN1M9RGCTMLr JuN842BqOtafwFcPp8R9zIb9PztkkyEhFi8co= Received: by 10.142.207.8 with SMTP id e8mr1422441wfg.110.1217215959707; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.87.11 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1ab24f410807272032v29ffe953xff47db07b1192a1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:32:39 -0400 From: "Lynn Hanover" To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Safety wire. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9346_12043225.1217215959702" ------=_Part_9346_12043225.1217215959702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Use the Murphy Never Sleeps type of assuming. If you don't need it, don't safety it. It will eventually fall off. Safety includes bobby pins and cotter pins. Murphy slips in at night and backs off every fastener 1/4 turn. Murphy never sleeps. An old saw used to be bolt heads up and forward. Why is that? Because the nut will eventually fall off of every bolt you own. When it does, it will stay in place if the head is up and it just hangs in the hole or the head is forward and the wind will hold it in place. Shear bolts do not get torqued into a working range. they have just a short thread run. They use very short nuts. They have a nut on them to keep them in place, not to develop a tension load. They need a bobby pin or wire to keep the nut in place. Tension bolts have more threads and use taller nuts. They get torqued into a working range. Their nuts may not have a locking feature at all. They must be safety wired. The rotary installations have less vibration than piston engines. There is less a problem with loose fasteners. There will be no problem with loose fasteners if they are all safety wired. Its good practice. It looks sexy. Very few planes have been lost to excess safety wire. Imagine each piece of the pie, if it came loose. Would it rub on an oil line? could it wedge the throttle closed? could it punch a hole in the radiator? Are the hose ends/ "B" nuts on your oil lines safetied? They should be. You can buy a block full of bolt and nut holes to use for drilling wire holes where none exsist. Remember, Murphy Never Sleeps. Lynn E. Hanover Hello everyone, I know that the subject of safety wire has been discussed many times before, however searching the archives can at times be very difficult and actually finding the answer you want is like winning the lottery (it never happens). What I would like to know is what most are considering an absolute must to be safety wired. What the FAA requires and what is not so important but some are doing anyway. I feel that the subject of safety can never be discussed enough. I would like everyone that has an opinion on safety wire and what must be safety wired to weigh in on this subject. I plan to save some if not all of your answers for future reference. Maybe we can make a list of what must be safety wired. Thanks Keith RV-7A 13-B ------=_Part_9346_12043225.1217215959702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Use the Murphy Never Sleeps type of assuming.
 
If you don't need it, don't safety it. It will eventually fall off. Safety includes bobby pins and cotter pins. Murphy slips in at night and backs off every fastener 1/4 turn. Murphy never sleeps.
 
An old saw used to be bolt heads up and forward. Why is that? Because the nut will eventually fall off of every bolt you own. When it does, it will stay in place if the head is up and it just hangs in the hole or the head is forward and the wind will hold it in place.
 
Shear bolts do not get torqued into a working range. they have just a short thread run. They use very short nuts. They have a nut on them to keep them in place, not to develop a tension load. They need a bobby pin or wire to keep the nut in place. Tension bolts have more threads and use taller nuts. They get torqued into a working range. Their nuts may not have a locking feature at all. They must be safety wired. 
 
The rotary installations have less vibration than piston engines. There is less a problem with loose fasteners.
There will be no problem with loose fasteners if they are all safety wired. Its good practice. It looks sexy.
Very few planes have been lost to excess safety wire. Imagine each piece of the pie, if it came loose. Would it rub on an oil line? could it wedge the throttle closed? could it punch a hole in the radiator? Are the hose ends/ "B" nuts on your oil lines safetied? They should be. You can buy a block full of bolt and nut holes to use for drilling wire holes where none exsist.
 
Remember, Murphy Never Sleeps.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
 
Hello everyone,

I know that the subject of safety wire has been discussed many times before,  however searching the archives can at times be very difficult and actually finding the answer you want is like winning the lottery (it never happens).  What I would like to know is what most are considering an absolute must to be safety wired.  What the FAA requires and what is not so important but some are doing anyway.  I feel that the subject of safety can never be discussed enough.  I would like everyone that has an opinion on safety wire and what must be safety wired to weigh in on this subject.  I plan to save some if not all of your answers for future reference.  Maybe we can make a list of what must be safety wired.

Thanks
Keith
RV-7A
13-B
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