X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com ([209.85.198.234] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3041167 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:18:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.198.234; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2734038rvb.7 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=nXo3hOZg57UscN741VxlvG8vvk6h88KFHa2ebutMl7Y=; b=poGg04PqGNM+SdRmkFqz+3ILEoMVhBtQwKIjgratW2f8lH2LqFSkVOVobxnIZ+OJ4D oLcb7bIqIt66TkayFZQrH9WvS+WJW3Q1Yjt3umokIxlTOkaVO8PVDPkcLHM5Qe+uQhym iqVZKdNcBeBOCGG/3s/h23FKSTchvaqfilG/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ex9DsNUyr3ASDjflWszZM49V/FA2ox+W9v+kYKLyEfeoqkQFwowtoun0N+0RvTg9U1 BYCGOqQTQX4JkA2bGnmvS2Jqoa+mpQ5oXjzmTlZDAUYh7KEhegEK2Qs8XNnK0DuAgAJS mD6l+qZkdYQURLzb+qQL5Ip+O1+Y3a5Z1XQOo= Received: by 10.141.82.20 with SMTP id j20mr533441rvl.234.1216945086770; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.169.20 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0807241718h7c58fc28u869e03f91b31e9d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:18:06 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 13B--- N/A vs. Turbo engine buildup? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_111952_22723595.1216945086757" References: ------=_Part_111952_22723595.1216945086757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Paul, I am running a N/A 20B-REW (twin turbo) rotary in my Lancair. It has the stock 9.0 rotors. I've read over and over that at the rpm range we operate= , there is very little difference in power between low and high compression rotors. I doubt that anyone that's ridden in my Lancair would say that it is a "dog". However, I did do a little porting, so probably helps to offse= t the low compression rotors. You can use high compression rotors, but you'l= l need to have it rebalanced. I used the stock turbo rotors because I may want to turbo-charge later on and didn't want to tear the engine down again to change rotors. Mark On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Paul Vermillion wrote: > > > > > * * > *Subject:* 13B--- N/A vs. Turbo engine buildup? > > > > To Everyone=97 > > We have both a 13*b * NA (unknown vintage=9780's?) and a = '91 > Turbo 13B engine and are just beginning their teardowns, both allegedly > running but internal condition unknown. Would there be any problem runn= ing > the Turbo engine (BUT *NOT* with the turbo setup-- *AS IF* it were a NA > engine)? Is it a "stronger" engine than the NA? Would it need a differe= nt > Timing setup? Would there be a compression problem running it sans turbo= ? > (Hearsay has it that it would be a "dog".) If some of the individual par= ts > spec out to be better in one engine but not in the other, would there be = any > problem/advantage in "mixing & matching" the various parts in the newly > built up engine, i.e., rotaries, side plates, eccentric shaft, etc? We > would appreciate your inputs. Thanks! > > > > Paul & Don Vermillion > ------=_Part_111952_22723595.1216945086757 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Paul,

I am running a N/A 20B-REW (twin turbo) rota= ry in my Lancair.  It has the stock 9.0 rotors.  I've read ov= er and over that at the rpm range we operate, there is very little differen= ce in power between low and high compression rotors.  I doubt that any= one that's ridden in my Lancair would say that it is a "dog".=   However, I did do a little porting, so probably helps to offset the = low compression rotors.  You can use high compression rotors, but you&= #39;ll need to have it rebalanced.  I used the stock turbo rotors beca= use I may want to turbo-charge later on and didn't want to tear the eng= ine down again to change rotors. 

Mark

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:20 PM= , Paul Vermillion <paulo264@cox.net= > wrote:

 

 

 
Subject: 13B--- N/A vs. Turbo engine buildup?

 

To Everyone=97

            =     We have both a 13b  NA (unknown vintage=9780's?) and a '91 Turbo 13B engine and are just beginning their teardowns, both allegedly running but internal condition unknown.   Would there b= e any problem running the Turbo engine (BUT NOT with the turbo setup--= AS IF it were a NA engine)?  Is it a "stronger" engine than the NA?  Would it need a different Timing setup?  Would there be = a compression problem running it sans turbo? (Hearsay has it that it would be= a "dog".)  If some of the individual parts spec out to be better in one engine but not in the other, would there be any problem/advantage in "mixing & matching" the various parts in the newly built up engine, i.e., rotaries, side plates, eccentric shaft, etc?   We w= ould appreciate your inputs.    Thanks!

 

Paul & Don Vermillion


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