X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3041103 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.96; envelope-from=ktradcliff@comcast.net Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tx811Z01C0cQ2SLA9zdyuv; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:58 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tzdg1Z00D2lQJFg8WzdgqK; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:40 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=13wpdQpEO6YA:10 a=uq9xOXc33DMA:10 a=yLNVi2CJbbbm3WgGAdIA:9 a=khxTjC2aSxd1flwqUwwA:9 a=gTOdAT1AYArpVDeP23oA:7 a=awdjZfuxbbcyrKMWcT8x5KMEzsIA:4 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 a=NLLwyj3UCte_UYsAnTYA:9 a=0uAhNxk0S9AfE2ZiXwAA:7 a=XwdVee8u3szIV6mYxgfij7fVr9sA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=iYlkOlhu7C0A:10 Received: from [67.171.184.132] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:56 +0000 From: ktradcliff@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:56 +0000 Message-Id: <072420082337.29190.48891254000A1215000072062205889116000007040C0B0E9D9B05@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: a3RyYWRjbGlmZkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29190_1216942676_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29190_1216942676_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks Kelly -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Kelly Troyer" > Keith, > Determine the thickness of the spacer needed (washers, alum, etc) with the > correct size > of hole for bolt......JB Weld or Super Glue inside the pan (over bolt > hole)......Temp. mount > pan........Borrow or buy a "Duplicating Punch" of approx same diameter as bolt ( > "Harbor > Freight" has cheap sets in inch sizes up to 1/2").........One of these should be > close enough > to the metric bolt size (12 or 14mm I think).........Insert punch into pan hole > (spacer is to > keep punch at 90 degrees to the "CCI" plate.........Give punch a good rap with a > hammer > to put a center punch mark on the "CCI" plate.........Remove pan and carefully > drill plate > slightly larger than bolt diameter.........Go slowly so as not to mess up > threads in the center > housing (should you get a thread or two a metric tap will clean it up........If > spacer pops > off pan when using punch reglue in place........Reinstall pan and seal it > up.......Install large > pan bolt and sealing washer........Should work........... > -- > Kelly Troyer > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > ktradcliff@comcast.net > > > The washers sound like an excellent idea Kelly and most likely will work, > however there might be an issue with keeping everything lined up and in place. > It might not be to much of a problem on an engine stand with the engine upside > down (note: it might not) but with the engine mounted in a flying aircraft with > the engine right side up there will be a problem. Maybe some kind of bushing > will work; but again lining it up. Engine stand upside down easy, right side > up problem. Suggestions Please --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29190_1216942676_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:34 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29190_1216942676_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29190_1216942676_1 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27379_1216862750_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27379_1216862750_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  Keith,
     Determine the thickness of the spacer ne= eded (washers, alum, etc) with the correct size
of hole for bolt......JB Weld or Super Glue inside the pan (over = bolt hole)......Temp. mount
pan........Borrow or buy a "Duplicating Punch" of approx same diameter= as bolt ( "Harbor
Freight" has cheap sets in inch sizes up to 1/2").........One of these= should be close enough
to the metric bolt size (12 or 14mm I think).........Insert punch into= pan hole (spacer is to
keep punch at 90 degrees to the "CCI" plate.........Give punch a good = rap with a hammer
to put a center punch mark on the "CCI" plate.........Remove pan and c= arefully drill plate
slightly larger than bolt diameter.........Go slowly so as not to mess= up threads in the center
housing (should you get a thread or two a metric tap will clean it up.= .......If spacer pops
off pan when using punch reglue in place........Reinstall pan and seal= it up.......Install large
pan bolt and sealing washer........Should work...........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engin= e
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
ktradcliff@comcast.net  

The washers sound like an excellent idea Kelly a= nd most likely will work, 
however there might be an issue with ke= eping everything lined up and in place. 
It might not be to much o= f a problem on an engine stand with the engine upside
down (note: it mi= ght not) but with the engine mounted in a flying aircraft with
the engi= ne right side up there will be a problem.  Maybe some kind of bushing =
will work; but again lining it up.  Engine stand upside down easy,=   right side
up problem.  Suggestions Please


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