X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3040114 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:52:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.48; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tmMY1Z00917UAYkA5orNlN; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:51:22 +0000 Received: from amailcenter11.comcast.net ([204.127.225.111]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id torM1Z00A2Qq2as8ZorMig; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:51:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=msO46qKVZWgA:10 a=byCXVCVTZ30A:10 a=6glpwg13dJCxj4O4uTsA:9 a=leHMXajpwn9F4rslTf4A:9 a=m4fDhl8Iz0x9S8f-rmMA:7 a=oXcu5Wop-2pUB4rfEMkEfhrNmEYA:4 a=G9YrwMgbHHAA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Z0IJfqUBFcwA:10 a=BdC9U0ad0lFNvWO2jX4A:9 a=P-HOCf919yVbo9JwwCUA:7 a=uRnBhYUzOsRttUDpJDGBTJKhqWgA:4 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=ZHwG2C5sB2Nv_QsKVLYA:9 a=S04dolR-7CLjzhSkHrwA:9 a=GYxvEhg7g75bS9j_vhUA:7 a=dUSbPymzSdoLROdxzpTuHRaWFQ0A:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=iYlkOlhu7C0A:10 Received: from [208.254.22.50] by amailcenter11.comcast.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:51:21 +0000 From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:51:21 +0000 Message-Id: <072420081251.26766.48887AC8000D641C0000688E2215593414CE970E990E9C9D9A0108@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: aG91cnNhd2F5MUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit SANDWICH TWO PIECES OF ALUM. STOCK W/SEALANT & CRUSH-RIVET TOGETHER, THOUGHT OF THIS LIGHTER IDEA AFTER WE HAD THE PAN ON W/LARGE BOLT-NUT-SEALANT. DAVID COOK RV6A ROTARY, CCI MOUNT, LANSING MI (hindered 1st. eng. start by leaking new w/p out bearing weep hole, pump was on eng., not run, for two years. murphy?) -------------- Original message -------------- From: ktradcliff@comcast.net > > > The washers sound like an excellent idea Kelly and most likely will work, > however there might be an issue with keeping everything lined up and in place. > It might not be to much of a problem on an engine stand with the engine upside > down (note: it might not) but with the engine mounted in a flying aircraft with > the engine right side up there will be a problem. Maybe some kind of bushing > will work; but again lining it up. Engine stand upside down easy, right side > up problem. Suggestions Please > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Kelly Troyer" > > Keith, > > > > > Yes the 84-85 13B pan will fit........The two larger bolt holes for the > > engine mount on the > > center housing are not drilled on the 84-84 13B pan but the small 6 mm bolt > hole > > (Standard > > pan bolts) is already drilled and threaded on your center housing (My 88 > housing > > is) and will > > match up with the early pan so there is no need to drill the pan for the > larger > > bolts........One > > other suggestion would be to make a spacer (stack of wide area washers ?) to > fit > > in the space > > between your existing pan and the CCI plate and go ahead and drill the plate > for > > a bolt and > > sealing washer..........Should not be a major problem IMHO......... > > -- > > Kelly Troyer > > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_1 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
SANDWICH TWO PIECES OF ALUM. STOCK W/SEALANT & CRUSH-RIVET TOGETHER, THOUGHT OF THIS LIGHTER IDEA AFTER WE HAD THE PAN ON W/LARGE BOLT-NUT-SEALANT.  DAVID COOK RV6A ROTARY, CCI MOUNT, LANSING MI  (hindered 1st. eng. start by leaking new w/p out bearing weep hole, pump was on eng., not run, for two years. murphy?)
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: ktradcliff@comcast.net

>
>
> The washers sound like an excellent idea Kelly and most likely will work,
> however there might be an issue with keeping everything lined up and in place.
> It might not be to much of a problem on an engine stand with the engine upside
> down (note: it might not) but with the engine mounted in a flying aircraft with
> the engine right side up there will be a problem. Maybe some kind of bushing
> will work; but again lining it up. Engine stand upside down easy, right side
> up problem. Suggestions Please
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Kelly Troyer"
> > Keith,
>
>
>
>
> Yes the 84-85 13B pan wil l fit........The two larger bolt holes for the
> > engine mount on the
> > center housing are not drilled on the 84-84 13B pan but the small 6 mm bolt
> hole
> > (Standard
> > pan bolts) is already drilled and threaded on your center housing (My 88
> housing
> > is) and will
> > match up with the early pan so there is no need to drill the pan for the
> larger
> > bolts........One
> > other suggestion would be to make a spacer (stack of wide area washers ?) to
> fit
> > in the space
> > between your existing pan and the CCI plate and go ahead and drill the plate
> for
> > a bolt and
> > sealing washer..........Should not be a major problem IMHO.........
> > --
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
> >
>
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_1-- --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: ktradcliff@comcast.net To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:15:26 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/mixed; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_2" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26766_1216903881_2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Sealing oil pan motor mount hole Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:52:37 +0000 Content-Type: Multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9557_1216854884_1 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11812_1216824715_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11812_1216824715_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   Keith,
      Yes the 84-85 13B pan will fit........T= he two larger bolt holes for the engine mount on the
center housing are not drilled on the 84-84 13B pan but the small 6 mm= bolt hole (Standard
pan bolts) is already drilled and threaded on your center housing (My = 88 housing is) and will
match up with the early pan so there is no need to drill the pan for t= he larger bolts........One
other suggestion would be to make a spacer (stack of wide area washers= ?) to fit in the space
between your existing pan and the CCI plate and go ahead and drill the= plate for a bolt and
sealing washer..........Should not be a major problem IMHO.........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d



 
-------------- Original message from ktradcliff@comcast.net:= --------------


>
>
>
> If I can find o= ne; Will a 1984 - 85 rx-7 stock oil pan fit the 1987 rx-7 block
> bo= lt for bolt with no modification?
>
>
>
>
&= gt; -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "= Kelly Troyer"
> > Keith, > In an ideal situati= on you could find an 1984-5 RX7 13B pan that does not
> have
>= ; > that > extra bolt hole in it as the mounts were still on the fron= t
> cover...........But
> > since you
> > probab= ly cannot find one I have a question.........Since I am not totally
>= ; > familar with the
> > CCI mount plate is the spot on the pl= ate under the extra oil pan bolt open or
> > would
> > = you have to drill a hole for access to the threaded boss in the center hous= ing
> > ?..........
> > I do not remember what the bolt= size is (probably 12 or 14 mm) but if this
> > hole fits
>= ; > flush with the CCI plate then a large headed bolt and copper gasket = might seal
> > it !!
> >
> > FWIW
> &g= t; --
> > Kelly Troyer
> > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engi= ne
> > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
> > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil M= anifold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> &g= t;
> > -------------- Original message from ktradcliff@comcast.ne= t: --------------
> >
> >
> > > I am using= the stock 13b oil pan along with the cci motor mount. The stock
> 1= 3b
> > > oil pan has 3 motor mount holes that are utilized whe= n mounted in the car.
> In
> > > aircraft application w= ith the cci mount only two of the three bolt holes are
> > > u= sed. I am looking for the best method to seal this extra hole. Are some > > > choosing to weld this hole (although this is a very importa= nt piece to the
> bed
> > > mount and needs to maintain= a good seal, and a bad weld may warp the thin
> > pan)?
>= > > Or would a locking nut and bolt with some type of gasket maker d= o the trick?
> > > Possible some type of expandable plug like = the ones used in a boats? Not
> sure
> > > what to do l= ooking for the best answer.
> > >
> > > Thanks > > > Keith
> > > RV-7A
> > > 13b
= > > > With all of Tracy's stuff
> > > CCI Engine moun= t
> > >
> > > --
> > > Homepage: htt= p://www.flyrotary.com/
> > > Archive and UnSub:
> http:= //mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>
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