X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.170.187] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3019461 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:24:44 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.170.187; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m69so1110587rnd.1 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZhjKNOdoAakAFkU3Eo2ELYOT7IUwlznPSpPQBBIuQHM=; b=OR4dV/FSkyUGziQq4AcRI2ZPHnXBcWIgZdd+gizM/URWC78Bk4YKw1AmdWeI726nYB eOiWgpue5dfI20pQA0WujTVm/IOPyUQeoS2HRtFc+Se/O/jtKxN7JqdJA63aJ0gFOHh8 470FV8UHcNpmrchrsjqpVd6AGK5ldHolHXUvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=E+6S0tY5SYiwa9HoMXmjXFHYvbyhYXtNMY0P4ss+la8WrGJEkwe50RDyG53y0rFP/f zq9KboYKywW9yqq/24s5VIPI12axEeLxvW2D976NVQuxEy62oW4oPrW6wriDQoU84xdA s56i0yx3YFCqthgNEXgcP2fuOFxp6g60MhWNE= Received: by 10.151.145.17 with SMTP id x17mr14432474ybn.102.1215692644616; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.185.7 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0807100524x5420d7e2w833546ab2da8a2b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:24:04 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Meeting nice people while building a plane... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18272_1281218.1215692644676" References: ------=_Part_18272_1281218.1215692644676 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dave, Do you actually check the gas for alcohol? I've been burning Valero gas and have not detected any alcohol in it. If I did, I wouldn't use it in my airplane. Mark On 7/9/08, David Staten wrote: > > And yea everyone.... our MOGAS fuel has up to 10% ethanol. > > I dont remember which jeffcoat product we coated the inside of the strake > tanks with.. > > Dave > > Christopher Barber wrote: > >> In my case it was the fine men of the Ellington Field/Johnson Space Center >> Fire Department when the guys in the hangar next to me (building a P51 >> replica with a V-12) smelled the a strong odor of gasoline coming from my >> hangar and called the Fire Dept. So the hazmat guys responded and I got a >> early morning call from the Airport. They entered through main door in >> which they had a key and soaked up leaking fuel. They were really great >> about it. They called and asked if I could be up there quickly so they >> didn't have to cut my lock. I got there in about 15 minutes. They were all >> very friendly and helpful and curious about the build. >> So, best as I can tell, I have a leak in the right strake. Damnit, I >> pressure tested this thing a few years ago. I have had 10 gallons in the >> plane for a while, however, yesterday I put about ten more gallons of fuel >> in than I had before. I thought I only had about fifteen total gallons in >> the plane, after running it though the day, but I drained out a total of >> about 25 today (I have been adding a bit at various times as I was doing >> test runs). >> When the field called I had assumed the leak was gonna be at the aluminum >> line connections to the sump tank, but we could see a bit of fuel steaming >> into the cabin at the apex of the right strake. I could not determine >> exactly where, of course. SO, the engine development is on hold 'till this >> latest little challenge is disposed with. Damn it. Oh well, so it >> goes.......it could be worse, it could be raining. :-) >> So, I am heading to the variously list archives to be reminded on the >> best way to track this kind of thing down. Any direction/shortcuts to info >> y'all may add will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> All the best, >> Chris >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: >> 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:32 PM >> >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > ------=_Part_18272_1281218.1215692644676 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dave,
 
Do you actually check the gas for alcohol?  I've been burning Valero gas and have not detected any alcohol in it.  If I did, I wouldn't use it in my airplane.
 
Mark 

 
On 7/9/08, David Staten <Dastaten@earthlink.net> wrote:
And yea everyone.... our MOGAS fuel has up to 10% ethanol.

I dont remember which jeffcoat product we coated the inside of the strake tanks with..

Dave

Christopher Barber wrote:
In my case it was the fine men of the Ellington Field/Johnson Space Center Fire Department when the guys in the hangar next to me (building a P51 replica with a V-12) smelled the a strong odor of gasoline coming from my hangar and called the Fire Dept.  So the hazmat guys responded and I got a early morning call from the Airport.  They entered through main door in which they had a key and soaked up leaking fuel. They were really great about it.  They called and asked if I could be up there quickly so they didn't have to cut my lock.  I got there in about 15 minutes.  They were all very friendly and helpful and curious about the build.
 So, best as I can tell, I have a leak in the right strake.  Damnit, I pressure tested this thing a few years ago. I have had 10 gallons in the plane for a while, however, yesterday I put about ten more gallons of fuel in than I had before.  I thought I only had about fifteen total gallons in the plane, after running it though the day, but I drained out a total of about 25 today (I have been adding a bit at various times as I was doing test runs).
 When the field called I had assumed the leak was gonna be at the aluminum line connections to the sump tank, but we could see a bit of fuel steaming into the cabin at the apex of the right strake.  I could not determine exactly where, of course.  SO, the engine development is on hold 'till this latest little challenge is disposed with.  Damn it.  Oh well, so it goes.......it could be worse, it could be raining. :-)
 So, I am heading to the variously list archives to be reminded on the best way to track this kind of thing down.  Any direction/shortcuts to info y'all may add will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 All the best,
 Chris
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:32 PM
 


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