X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.46.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2958868 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:30:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.46.30; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so1133481ywj.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:30:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=dO1CUfwRiwinPxlMw/ynrXDqi2b67BA9o5g2T7uYJIM=; b=slHSRoC5dfJJI2HyTWOSBOsiP0ndIeFCiyGrztPAgrip2eYoscdq1vAYHDTfoxmZWj nuU527mmFGZ0a1cdfRxyUJrkFh/tFCDuKhPV3QpXVssE2Hcqrvbrsj4dnq+juXT4uI37 PJaLJCwfbgTMkIL9mt4oXgp8/cVoMtmihrh2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=mSfy5UAqxqwp5rWxjI/jPgRjd6rWmw5pAs38+k5Vgp0XA8EaBwAVTN0jpgjzuh3Ox+ 64TKXagWZajV6l5sab4g84HGs3vK4Go6vhGOkJ/6rEpOpJ7DMaf3LXn6OBN4qxDOXHQm HbIjxi/UyFLgrONOLKoERn+SMfDfK+beIgyvQ= Received: by 10.151.112.16 with SMTP id p16mr4709695ybm.37.1212949806464; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.145.16 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c23473f0806081130t692722b2hff94f058183a025a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:30:06 -0700 From: "David Leonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Mufflers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15834_4168984.1212949806532" References: ------=_Part_15834_4168984.1212949806532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I couldn't agree more Todd. Well said. I also think that should apply to Harley motorcycles (and clones). There was a time when it was cool to have a loud bike, because they were so few and far between. Nowadays, it seems the streets are filled with unnecessarily loud motorcycles and supped up Hondas (etc). IMHO, riding something loud is no longer unique, and is not cool, and should not be acceptable. The only exception is a true war bird. There are only so may of them left, and they will always be cool! Dave Leonard On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Todd Bartrim wrote: > Yesterday someone said something to the effect that since the muffler > posed so many risks he was going to omit it and get a good pair of noise > canceling headsets instead. You really need to reconsider this. All of > general aviation needs to address this, but us rotary enthusiasts in > particular. No other motor vehicle is allowed to operate in public with out > a muffler (other than at raceways, etc.). The growing green movement is > demanding an end to all the fun that we powersport enthusiasts enjoy, and > when we call their attention every time we fly over, they will make more > noise of their own. > > As the unmuffled rotary is perhaps the worst offender, we even > have a reputation amongst the Lycosaurus crowd as being obnoxiously loud. > This is unacceptable in my opinion. We may not need their support but we > certainly don't need to generate any more opposition from them. > > > > Let's lead by example and take the muffler off our heads and put it on the > engine where it belongs. > > > > *Todd Bartrim*** > > > -- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net http://RotaryRoster.net ------=_Part_15834_4168984.1212949806532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I couldn't agree more Todd.  Well said. 

I also think that should apply to Harley motorcycles (and clones).  There was a time when it was cool to have a loud bike, because they were so few and far between.  Nowadays, it seems the streets are filled with unnecessarily loud motorcycles and supped up Hondas (etc).  IMHO, riding something loud is no longer unique, and is not cool, and should not be acceptable.

The only exception is a true war bird.  There are only so may of them left, and they will always be cool!

Dave Leonard

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Todd Bartrim <bartrim@gmail.com> wrote:

Yesterday someone said something to the effect that since the muffler posed so many risks he was going to omit it and get a good pair of noise canceling headsets instead. You really need to reconsider this. All of general aviation needs to address this, but us rotary enthusiasts in particular. No other motor vehicle is allowed to operate in public with out a muffler (other than at raceways, etc.). The growing green movement is demanding an end to all the fun that we powersport enthusiasts enjoy, and when we call their attention every time we fly over, they will make more noise of their own.

            As the unmuffled rotary is perhaps the worst offender, we even have a reputation amongst the Lycosaurus crowd as being obnoxiously loud. This is unacceptable in my opinion. We may not need their support but we certainly don't need to generate any more opposition from them.

           

Let's lead by example and take the muffler off our heads and put it on the engine where it belongs.

 

Todd Bartrim

 




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