X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.219.56.248] (HELO qnsi-xch.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2923049 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 May 2008 09:18:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.219.56.248; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8B696.BB8F1448" Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil/water cooler Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 08:19:47 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil/water cooler Thread-Index: Aci2N0hmpHnBZRrGQ86TZCAZpFA7uwAW330g From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8B696.BB8F1448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, =20 The weight is between 5 and 6 pounds with all fittings. Not sure when I = will be able to properly test this configuration. I am trying to chase = down an oil lead before installing the prop. Yes it was very expensive = but it is an RV10 :) Actually I made a mockup of the Techwelding cooler = and I just could not fit it in very easily. I was (still) not certain = about placement in the coolant loop. If I had any sort of welding = skills I may have went that direction. I also liked the flexibility of = changing the Lamoniva coolant fittings without welding or adapters if = needed.=20 =20 Bobby ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Mike Wills Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil/water cooler Bobby, =20 What's it weigh? Sure isnt cheap! For that price I sure hope it isnt a = failed experiment. How far along is your project (in other words when = will we get some feedback on whether or not it works)? I love the idea = of a water to air exchanger but in the end I chickened out. Sure would = like to get rid of an extra cowl inlet and a bunch of plumbing though! =20 Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bobby J. Hughes =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil/water cooler Al, =20 I have the dual core E54-329 sitting between two 400ci radiators. No = idea how it will work yet. =20 Bobby =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil/water cooler =09 =09 Who makes the water/oil cooler system I've heard about, and does it = work??? Thanks again. =20 I recently installed a MoCal Laminova 43-330 oil/water heat exchanger = as a backup to my oil/air cooler. It works as advertised; and will = handle roughly =BC - 1/3 of the heat load for the 20B. That was all I = needed to keep my oil temps below max during climb on a hot day. =20 Setrab still makes a couple of units of lower capacity TOC-150 and = TOC-200, but the larger TOC-300 is currently out of production. =20 Fluidyne no longer makes oil/water units, but some still show up now = and then on e-bay. =20 C&R racing will make a higher capacity unit for you - at a price. =20 Al=20 =20 =09 ________________________________ =09 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8B696.BB8F1448 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike,
 
The weight is between 5 and 6 pounds with all = fittings. Not=20 sure when I will be able to properly test this configuration. I am = trying to=20 chase down an oil lead before installing the prop. Yes it was very = expensive but=20 it is an RV10 :) Actually I made a mockup of the Techwelding cooler and = I just=20 could not fit it in very easily. I was (still) not = certain about=20 placement in the coolant loop.  If I had any sort of welding skills = I may=20 have went that direction. I also liked the flexibility of changing=20 the Lamoniva coolant fittings without welding or adapters if=20 needed. 
 
Bobby

From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mike=20 Wills
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:54 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil/water=20 cooler

Bobby,
 
What's it weigh? Sure isnt cheap! For = that price I=20 sure hope it isnt a failed experiment. How far along is your project (in = other=20 words when will we get some feedback on whether or not it works)? I love = the=20 idea of a water to air exchanger but in the end I chickened out. Sure = would like=20 to get rid of an extra cowl inlet and a bunch of plumbing = though!
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bobby J. = Hughes=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 = 11:40=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Oil/water=20 cooler

Al,
 
I have the dual core E54-329 sitting between = two 400ci=20 radiators. No idea how it will work yet.
 
Bobby

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al=20 Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:16 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil/water=20 cooler

Who makes the water/oil = cooler=20 system I've heard about, and does it work???

Thanks again.

 

I recently = installed=20 a MoCal Laminova 43-330 oil/water heat exchanger as a backup to my = oil/air=20 cooler.  It works as advertised; and will handle roughly =BC - = 1/3 of the=20 heat load for the 20B. That was all I needed to keep my oil temps = below max=20 during climb on a hot day.

 

Setrab = still makes=20 a couple of units of lower capacity TOC-150 and TOC-200, but the = larger=20 TOC-300 is currently out of production.

 

Fluidyne = no longer=20 makes oil/water units, but some still show up now and then on=20 e-bay.

 

C&R = racing will=20 make a higher capacity unit for you =96 at a price.

 

Al=20

 

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