Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #42777
From: Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Decalin Chemicals RunUp Fuel Additive
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:10:29 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Do the test in a well ventilated area.  The lead will come off as a
vapor also.

Bob W.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:00:25 -0400
"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> No, never thought of that option - certainly have plenty of plugs around to try it on.  Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have to give it a try.
>
> Ed
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: James Maher
>   To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>   Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:32 AM
>   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Decalin Chemicals RunUp Fuel Additive
>
>
>   Ed,
>   Since lead melts at a relatively low temp have your tried using a
>   propane torch to heat the plugs and let the lead drip off.
>   I don't know if it would work but it might be worth a try.
>
>   Jim
>
>   Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>     Actually, I did, Todd.  They guy sent me a complimentary spot of the stuff.  I flew with it for over 20 hours and it not only did not help but actually seemed to leave more deposits.  In the end after some research on the topic, I came to the conclusion that the temperatures did not go high enough to cause the chemical reaction that bound the lead.  In other words, it would work with the high temperatures reached in air cooled cylinder heads but apparently not with the lower temp water cooled blocks.  At least, that was my conclusion.
>
>     One of these days, I am going to find a heavy duty ultrasonic cleaner and see if that might "buzz" the lead deposit off the ceramic (without pulverizing the ceramic).  Typical abrasive blasting does not work very well due to the shrouding effect of the multiple ground electrodes which tend to shield the ceramic cone.
>
>     Thanks for bring it to my attention
>
>     Ed
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Todd Bartrim
>       To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>       Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 2:09 AM
>       Subject: [FlyRotary] Emailing: Decalin Chemicals RunUp Fuel Additive
>
>
>       Hi Ed;
>           I recall a few years ago you were trying a few witch's potions in your quest to remove lead from your plugs. Did you ever try this stuff?
>        
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>                  Decalin RunUpT Fuel Additive in a 16 or 32 ounce bottle, use at 1/2 oz per 10 gallons fuel.
>                     a.. Helps prevent rough running due to plug fouling
>                     b.. Upgraded formulation to combat combustion chamber deposits.
>                     c.. Prevents valve seat erosion from valve seat micro welding.
>                     d.. Does not contain volatile solvents so it is safe to ship and safe in the cockpit.  You can carry it with you for out-of-town airports.
>                     e.. Easy to use graduated measuring and dispensing reservoir built into the bottle.  No messy syringes!
>                     f.. Tested and stable down to 0 degrees F.
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>             Decalin RunUp is not approved for use in the engines of certified aircraft but it has the same active ingredient, Tri Cresyl Phosphate as our previous product. Lycoming clone users have reported very good results when using this product.
>             Notes on using Decalin RunUp :
>             Some white deposits may be seen on the plugs and in the exhaust pipe during use; this is normal with RunUp since the lead in the fuel is being converted to non conductive lead phosphate.  When no additive is used, lead oxide is formed.  It is lead oxide which causes plugs to misfire due to its partial conductivity shorting out the plug.  In addition, lead oxide tends to form in large clumps or clinkers whereas the lead phosphate is crumbly and if any is left behind in the combustion chamber it deposits in even layers.  
>             Make sure you remove and clean your oxygen sensor every 20 hours to remove these lead phosphate deposits when using Decalin RunUp.
>             The dosage of 1/2 ounce per ten gallons of fuel is a minimum.  This can be increased to a maximum of 2 ounces per gallon for problem engines.
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>             Contact Information:
>             Phone: Fixed Line  650-353-5062    Cell 209-814-2313
>             793 South Tracy Blvd #319, Tracy, CA 95376  
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