X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2779078 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:42:16 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.200.173; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2016389wfa.25 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:41:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=v9l7LFXkNVqDUHAHvkc9LH9g2JJKgzTGFcOQBk1K8ls=; b=YzL8doCHSmerAW3OMNj9YalEBb9A6Q2vWANcW/mCgJy10GEivOC+guiApq6hYjhfzdAB9Eoc5sGnwwkvrhAqw3zk8Yx/igPtF8sSN+ysaDKmHZeta1I5vM//VQkdO0RC6JrY6nc2VDgy0jndEEJ/aVDJVNXjSPFWXZdlzvTXAHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=izS2p4HV4e/e8ij4/PbzKAw/+4NKFzK015vrFc0zzqvgQG85g2xXPYfPwSNJ40AWEjxhoEt7bBVqCr73/03lyf3b8K46Xv+/+e/AxN7Xmr7AuYchmovXhiVoSLZ5PV/NNKhaQyyAVbw+xG8C8N7xng61K/LttSxEvIsdLGPp0CE= Received: by 10.143.17.13 with SMTP id u13mr1062858wfi.69.1204764094430; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.125.5 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:41:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0803051641j3428e1e5l8b92a5d135328d6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:41:34 -0500 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis crank sensor users In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41019_25779905.1204764094421" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7223ca0ccb217bce ------=_Part_41019_25779905.1204764094421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The high speed miss/backfire (which can be very violent) is the symptom you might expect to go away in your case. The hesitation is probably unrelated. For that you probably need to richen the mixture at the point where the engine is running prior to the throttle advance. Note that if the engine is leaned out for best economy (using the manual mi= x control) and you then come down without setting the mixture to 'normal', th= e hesitation is likely. This is the same as you might get on a Lycoming in the same situation. Always set the mixture to moderately rich aftrer descending or in the pattern. There are several other things that can cause hesitation as well but I don'= t have enough info to say what your's might be. The unstable mixture might be related but again, not enough info to go on. Tracy On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > Tracy, > > Could you please elaborate a little about some of the symptoms that you > have heard or know about that this will cure? My Renesis starts fine, bu= t I > get some rough running at speed. I have had backfire once. Also, when I > advance the throttle, the engine does a large hesitation before it takes = off > in a quick rev. Like a car might if it didn't have an accelerator pump. > > My air/fuel indication seems to be unstable also at speed. Is that > related? > > > > I put the circuit together this afternoon and will install it, but I am > wondering what symptoms I might expect to go away=85 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill B > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Tracy Crook > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:15 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis crank sensor users > > Forgot to explain how to connect it. The two leads are to be connected > directly across the two leads of the Renesis crank sensor. It can be > installed near the sensor, near the EC2 or anywhere in between, whatever = is > easiest. It is not polarized so it doesn't matter which terminator lead > goes to which sensor lead. > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Tracy Crook > wrote: > > After completing a study of my 20B problems associated with the Renesis > trigger wheel and sensor, I am recommending that all users of these part= s > along with an EC2 engine controller install the sensor termination circui= t > shown on the attached drawing. > > > > The Renesis sensor has different enough characteristics from the 2nd gen > sensor that it needs this circuit to properly match it. It replaces the > 1000 ohm resistor that some may have already installed. This addresses > both the starting problem and the high rpm miss that have occurred in som= e > installations. > > Tracy > > > > > > > ------=_Part_41019_25779905.1204764094421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
The high speed miss/backfire (which can be very violent) is the sympto= m you might expect to go away in your case.  The hesitation is probabl= y unrelated.  For that you probably need to richen the mixture at the = point where the engine is running prior to the throttle advance.
 
Note that if the engine is leaned out for best economy (using the manu= al mix control) and you then come down without setting the mixture to '= normal', the hesitation is likely.   This is the same as you = might get on a Lycoming in the same situation.  Always set the mixture= to moderately rich aftrer descending or in the pattern.
 
There are several other things that can cause hesitation as well but I= don't have enough info to say what your's might be.
The unstable mixture might be related but again, not enough info to go= on.
 
Tracy
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Bill Bradburry = <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et] On Behalf Of Tracy = Crook
Sent: Thursday, February 28= , 2008 1:15 PM
To: Rotar= y motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Renesis crank sensor users

= Forgot to explain how to connect it.  = The two leads are to be connected directly across the two leads of the Rene= sis crank sensor.  It can be installed near the sensor, near the EC2 o= r anywhere in between, whatever is easiest.   It is not polarized= so it doesn't matter which terminator lead goes to which sen= sor lead.

tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrot= e: