X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2500115 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:17:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071122011704.KLCW507.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:17:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c82ca5$bef8edf0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Naca Report on Radiator Thickness Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:19:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Ok, Ron, I went back and looked at the drag aspects again. It looks like the calculation was accurate, however, I think this will put it into a better perspective than before. The frontal drag at 120 mph for the 1 square foot radiator (using just the frontal area - no drag coefficient) was 37.63 lbf/ft^2, the "internal skin" drag of the 4" thick radiator was 6.7 lbf/ft^2. The skin drag for the 1" thick rad was 4.28 lbf/ft^2. So comparing the 6.7 with the 4.28 was where I came up with the 58% increase in skin drag. However, adding the frontal and skin drag factors for the "total" drag, I get 37.62 lbf/ft^2 + 4.28 lbf/ft^2 = 40.98 lbf/ft^2 total drag for the 1" rad. For the 4" rad 37.62 + 6.7 = 44.32 lbf/ft^2, so based on that it appears that the total drag was increased by 41.90/44.32 = 5.5% more total drag for the 4" radiator than for the 1" radiator. It might be a tad bit less than that due to the 5% decrease in mass flow on the frontal area of the thicker rad. At least that is the way it appears to me. Ed