X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.121] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2392686 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:02:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.121; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071018010153.QNKY18131.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:01:53 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c81122$928eee20$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Programable Mazda ECU Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:02:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C81101.08422050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C81101.08422050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, sounds like that would work OK. Ah! That is very good. Shutdown = features are OK for an auto but not for an aircraft. Folks have fried = their rotary and it still got them back to the airfield with the EC2, so = would certainly want any temp controlled shut offs - shut down {:>) Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe Berki=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Programable Mazda ECU Ed, I read the installation manual on-line and it has a virtual pot to = change mixture from the PDA. Also ther is a feature that eliminates the = shutdown feature. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Programable Mazda ECU Its very interesting for sure. I could not tell, but did not see = any mixture control and of course it has no redundancy. Also, I would = be a bit cautious to make certain it did not (like some auto cpu have) = those limp-home or engine turn off functions. Several users of the = automobile cpu (for engines other than the rotary) found to their dismay = that if the engine got a bit hot, it would shut down - not nice to have = happen right after take off. So, while I really like some of its features, I'll have to say I'll = stick with the EC2. Besides with my EFI System Monitor I can change timing and fuel maps = on the EC2. {:>), so I feels I have the best of both worlds. Can't do = data logging though. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html . =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe Berki=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Programable Mazda ECU Has anyone tried this? = http://www.pocketlogger.com/index.php?pid=3Dhome also look at = http://www.turnerdr.com/proddetail.asp?prod=3DTDR0303 and checkout the = vido for stage 2 capabilities. You can use a Palm computer connect to = your Mazda ECU to change injector size ignition timing and injector = timing plus datalogging. Just wondering if this would work. Joe Berki Limo EZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - Release Date: = 10/17/2007 9:38 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C81101.08422050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, sounds like that would work OK.  = Ah!  That=20 is very good.  Shutdown features are OK for an auto but not for an=20 aircraft.  Folks have fried their rotary and it still got them back = to the=20 airfield with the EC2, so would certainly want any temp controlled shut = offs -=20 shut down {:>)
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Joe Berki=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, = 2007 8:22=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Programable=20 Mazda ECU

Ed,
I read the installation manual = on-line and it has=20 a virtual pot to change mixture from the PDA.  Also ther is a = feature=20 that eliminates the shutdown feature.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed Anderson
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, = 2007 8:12=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Programable=20 Mazda ECU

Its very interesting for sure.   I = could not=20 tell, but did not see any mixture control and of course it has no=20 redundancy.   Also, I would be a bit cautious to make = certain it=20 did not (like some auto cpu have) those limp-home or engine turn off = functions.  Several users of the automobile cpu (for engines = other than=20 the rotary) found to their dismay that if the engine got a bit hot, = it would=20 shut down - not nice to have happen right after take = off.
 
So, while I really like some of its = features, I'll=20 have to say I'll stick with the EC2.
 
Besides with my EFI System Monitor I can = change timing=20 and fuel maps on the EC2. {:>), so I feels I have the best of = both=20 worlds.  Can't do data logging though.
 
 
 
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp://www.andersonee.com
http:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
. 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Joe=20 Berki
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, October = 17, 2007=20 7:33 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Programable=20 Mazda ECU

Has anyone tried this?  http://www.pock= etlogger.com/index.php?pid=3Dhome also=20 look at http://www= .turnerdr.com/proddetail.asp?prod=3DTDR0303 and=20 checkout the vido for stage 2 capabilities.  You can use a = Palm=20 computer connect to your Mazda ECU to change injector size = ignition timing=20 and injector timing plus datalogging.  Just wondering if this = would=20 work.
 
Joe Berki
Limo EZ

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG = Free=20 Edition.
Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.13/1075 - = Release=20 Date: 10/17/2007 9:38 AM
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