X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2378595 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:52:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.37; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.cca.1cb85cf3 (39331) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:51:17 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Renesis super engine (16x) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1191991877" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5042 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1191991877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, Whats not to like? BTW If you stop drooling long enough you will notice in the text that they have changed the STROKE (e-shaft offset) AND widened the rotor housings. This will be an all new engine. That doesn't mean that the 13B can't be improved using these technologies though. I have been promoting DI for the rotary for some time. Of course with the desire to go back to carbs on the other list it has mainly fallen on deaf ears. To some extent using the old style mechanical injection I can understand the reluctance. The new common-rail piezo injector systems are another matter though. You should be able to improve the efficiency and power. I'm glad that Mazda thinks so too! No longer a voice in the wilderness. OH yea, the fact that the fuel is being injected far from the exhaust manifold isn't a bad thing either! At least in our aircraft applications. Bill Jepson In a message dated 10/9/2007 9:37:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, Dastaten@earthlink.net writes: I LIKE it... I like it a LOT. I wonder if the increased displacement is from thicker rotors, or increased lateral dimensions... Thicker means easier adaptation in my mind for existing PSRU's.. if the bolt pattern remains the same. The mounting plates would need to be remachined... I'm all about lighter, and I LOVE the idea of direct injection - no throttle lag, minimal wasted fuel - however single injector per rotor looks like the name of the game here. So.. have an engine that makes MORE power than a 13B yet weighs less and is in theory more efficient. Looks like a nice upgrade in the future.. Dave Andrew Martin wrote: > > More info on the 16X and pictures > > http://www.mazda.com/motorshow/technology/power/renesis/index.html > > Regards > > **Andrew Martin** > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1191991877 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave, Whats not to like?

BTW If you stop drooling long enough you will notice in the text that t= hey=20 have changed the STROKE (e-shaft offset) AND widened the rotor housings. Thi= s=20 will be an all new engine. That doesn't mean that the 13B can't be improved=20 using these technologies though. I have been promoting DI for the rotary for= =20 some time. Of course with the desire to go back to carbs on the other list i= t=20 has mainly fallen on deaf ears. To some extent using the old style mechanica= l=20 injection I can understand the reluctance. The new common-rail piezo injecto= r=20 systems are another matter though. You should be able to improve the efficie= ncy=20 and power. I'm glad that Mazda thinks so too! No longer a voice in the=20 wilderness. OH yea, the fact that the fuel is being injected far from the=20 exhaust manifold isn't a bad thing either! At least in our aircraft=20 applications.

Bill Jepson

In a message dated 10/9/2007 9:37:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 Dastaten@earthlink.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I LIKE=20 it... I like it a LOT.

I wonder if the increased displacement is fr= om=20 thicker rotors, or
increased lateral dimensions...

Thicker mean= s=20 easier adaptation in my mind for existing PSRU's.. if the
bolt pattern= =20 remains the same. The mounting plates would need to be=20
remachined...

I'm all about lighter, and I LOVE the idea of dir= ect=20 injection - no
throttle lag, minimal wasted fuel - however single inje= ctor=20 per rotor
looks like the name of the game here.

So.. have an en= gine=20 that makes MORE power than a 13B yet weighs less and
is in theory more= =20 efficient.

Looks like a nice upgrade in the=20 future..
Dave

Andrew Martin wrote:
>
> More info on=20= the=20 16X and pictures
>
>=20 http://www.mazda.com/motorshow/technology/power/renesis/index.html
>=
>=20 Regards
>
> **Andrew Martin**
>
<= /DIV>

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