In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:08:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bbradburry@bellsouth.net writes:
I think that I would
see air under the radiator cap if I had a compression gas leak? I never
see any air.
To check a piston
engine for head gasket leaks, you would put the cylinder at TDC and pressurize
the cylinder to about 150 lbs with compressed air and check the radiator for
air bubbles…How do you check a rotary?
I will check the
pressure sender against a mechanical gage.
There is obviously a
heating problem, but I think the pressure is higher than it should be until
just ready to boil. I shut the engine off at 210*, and at 22+ lbs, the
boiling point should be well above 250*??
Thanks for the
suggestions of where to look, guys…
Bill
B
It is extremely difficult to remove all of the air from a rotary engines
cooling system. It is also extremely important. If air is under the pressure cap
in a static situation, it will remix with other coolant when the engine is at
speed. The coolant moves very quickly through the system. The coolant volume
appears to increase slightly because much of the air is reintroduced into the
water. This coolant then becomes a poor conductor of heat. You need the anti
foaming agent in Antifreeze. Just a bit, perhaps 10%. The system with the relief
cap right on the radiator or filler point, starts to offload coolant as soon as
the engine is started. It is in hydraulic lock, and has a small volume. The
actual boiling point calculated for this coolant makes no difference at all. The
cap opens a bit when the trip pressure is attained, the pressure drops to 22 PSI
or whatever for your cap, and a bit more heating trips the cap again. It is
exactly the same as most cars.
So, at first in each heat cycle, there may be no correlation between
coolant temperature, and the actual amount of coolant dumped by the cap. This is
only true closer to a constant operating temperature. And then pressure may be
alarmingly unstable with power changes. The accumulator system makes pressure
rock solid.
Make the pressure cap into a filler cap, sealing only the top lip of the
radiator or filling port. Connect only a bleed hose and run it to the
bottom of a recovery bottle, and put the pressure relief cap on that bottle.
Keep the bottle about 1/3 full. Note after several heat cycles, the amount of
water you need to add to keep that bottle 1/3 full is reduced each time. Once
all of the air is out of the cooling system, no more coolant need be added to
the bottle.
Heating and cooling of the system, makes sweeping changes in coolant
volume. The air cushion in the bottle acts as an accumulator (used in thousands
of aircraft) to maintain a constant pressure and coolant supply.
Race cars use a Rolairtrol or spin bottle in the hose from the top of the
engine to the radiator. Water enters the bottle at about half height on a
tangent and adds a spinning motion. Water leaves through a center hole at the
bottom.
Trapped air pops to the top of the bottle and that is plumbed to the bottom
of the accumulator as above.
You used to get the plans for this thing when you buy a Cosworth race
engine. Does Cosworth know something you don't?
Anyway, after about three heat cycles (operating temperature and back to
room temperature) the coolant system will be solid coolant with all of the air
removed. It will not be hydraulically locked against the cap.
It will have the relief cap pressure, and will hold that for as long as the
engine is hot.
I have a Shrader valve installed in my accumulator tank, and before I start
the engine I charge that bottle with compressed air until the cap relieves at 22
PSI. Now I know it has pressure, and I know it has 22 PSI.
This was the stock system on all Mazda cars in the 70s. I didn't invent it.
It is unlikely that you have leaking compression seals, unless there is
coolant blowing out of your makeup tank, or coolant is running out of your
exhaust system after shutdown.
My recovery bottle is mounted where the passenger foot well would have
been. Even with the bottom of the engine. So long as the hose ID is less than
1/4" and the hose enters the bottle on the bottom of the coolant supply, it
matters not at all where that bottle is located. There is a money back guarantee
with this system.
Lynn E. Hanover