X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2316064 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 17:52:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.120; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 ([24.74.103.61]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20070906215125.IMJS3971.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@edward2> for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:51:25 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c7f0d0$24f3f4e0$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Idel issues Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:51:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Ah, a totally different problem. Does it sound like the engine is running too rich below 2000 or too lean. Too rich generally has sort of a sloppy sound to the exhaust, too lean has more of a bark - not very scientific, but based on experience. One, of the first thing I would check is your ignition timing. If too advanced that might prevent it from idling readily at lower rpms. Be aware that on some year models the timing pulley is indexed differently that throws off timing by 10-20 deg - no, sorry, I don't recall which years. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Daly" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Idel issues > its not that its idling high it is that it will not stay idling below > 2000rpm I have to hold the throttle open or it will stall. It does run > smooth from 2- 6000 rpm > > Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Anderson" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:28 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Idel issues > > >>I second Bob's suggestion. >> >> It does not take much of a leak to have the rotary idle at 2000 rpm. >> There are a number of areas in the Rx-7 that air could find its way into >> the induction system. Exchanging engine with all the air lines ranging >> from the air bleeds to the injectors and oil injectors to hoses hooked to >> the intake manifold and all the vacuum lines/valves make it highly likely >> that something has been left off or perhaps now has a crack in it. >> >> I seriously doubt that the O2 sensor would affect idle rpm that much. >> Although the absence of an O2 sensor may have the EFI computer confused >> and adding more fuel, but it would still take more air through the >> induction system to use that fuel and have it idle faster. >> >> Ed >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob White" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:33 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Idel issues >> >> >>> Hi Kevin, >>> >>> Are you using EFI? My first thought would be to look for air leaks in >>> the intake system. >>> >>> Bob W. >>> >>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:04:23 -0600 >>> "Shane Daly" wrote: >>> >>>> I just swaped my block out its a 13b non turbo . last block ran fine >>>> idled fine.but for some reason this one will not idle below 2 thousand >>>> rpm.any suggestions on what i missed or direction to go in? >>>> kevin >>> >>> >>> -- >>> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com >>> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding >>> Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: >> 269.13.7/992 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 8:36 AM >> >> > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >