X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.241.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2194448 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:58:41 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.40; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20070723155801.BVIS1393.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:58:01 -0400 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.132.90]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id T3y21X00L1xAn3c0000000; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:58:02 -0400 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: Oil temp Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:59:46 -0800 Message-ID: <000101c7cd4a$e0d7edf0$6400a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 replying to an old post from 8-6-07, because it had relevant pics Hi Al, Here are a few thoughts, from only from the things I've read & seen on=20 fast planes. In OCinlet1, you mentioned that the bottom 'lip' of the inlet is to the=20 rear of the inlet top. I can't cite any references, but I think I've=20 read that air will have a harder time being 'captured' by the inlet if=20 it's configured that way --------------- Charlie, I agree. The original inlet was that way, but I have since extended the scoop so that is no longer the case. ------------ In the exit pic, it looks like the top edge leads the bottom edge. Any=20 chance that this allows the higher energy air high on the sides to curl=20 around the into the outlet, since the edges slope forward? Also, how=20 sharp-edged is the exit duct end? If the exit lip is rounded at all, it=20 will encourage the air to curl back into the inlet. How sharp edged is=20 the wing trailing edge behind the exit? (Same issue: air curling up &=20 forward on the wing.) You mentioned possible flow separation on the top of the exit. What if=20 it's just pressure recovery on that part of the wing? From the pics, it=20 looks like both the inlet & outlet are placed far back toward the=20 trailing edge. All the stuff I've read implies that the boundary layer=20 gets very thick as you get closer to the rear of a structure, and also=20 that pressure near the trailing edge of an airfoil is actually positive=20 instead of negative.=20 ------------------ The trailing edge of the exit fairing is relatively sharp, maybe 1/16 - 3/32" radius. Yes, it might be better if it squared off. The wing = trailing edge is quite sharp. It is likely that the BL is quite thick at the exit position. I have = tried VGs on that surface with no gain. My measured pressure on the top of = the fairing, and at the midpoint of the opening behind the fairing, is about -0.75" H2O, so it is slightly negative. Al =20