X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail.fdic.gov ([167.176.6.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTPS id 2180652 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:17:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=167.176.6.5; envelope-from=brogers@fdic.gov DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; d=fdic.gov; s=fdic; c=simple; q=dns; t=1184602578; x=1184688978; h=from:date:subject:message-id:content-class:content-type; b=JlO9KNMa8egFUA5gafFpAdqaVe2hzSRUfcv/Xdo9QR+wIXd+z5JxqNeUfOgn8hjz6T2XxAl9kJjcXCnxqRH7Gg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7C7C4.97124178" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <15839C662A43B844B6E393DBFEAA90BF06A160DA@dalexc101p.prod.fdic.gov> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question thread-index: AcfE2+Z3tVATOOPuRliN/h1RLC8CYQC59ndw References: From: "Rogers, Bob J." To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Return-Path: BRogers@FDIC.gov X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2007 16:15:59.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[9897C870:01C7C7C4] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7C7C4.97124178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mark, =20 Yes, I live in Plano, TX and have a hangar at the McKinney municipal airport. You can see and read about my project at http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 =20 I am currently working on the engine baffling. Everything else is pretty much done. But as you know, it is all the remaining little details that take forever. =20 Bob =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:24 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question =20 His phone number is 817/975-2138. Email is rongowan@yahoo.com. I take it you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area? =20 =20 Mark =20 On 7/12/07, Rogers, Bob J. wrote:=20 Mark, =20 I would like to use Ron Gowan as my DAR when the time comes to have my rotary powered Mustang II inspected (within the next year, I hope). Do you have a phone number for Ron that I could call to contact him? =20 Thanks, =20 Bob Rogers =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:08 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question=20 =09 =20 Chris,=20 The only thing he asked me to do was pay for his gas to fly down. He indicated that $10 would suffice, but we both know that that wouldn't hardly get him to the runup area. Due to all the heavy rains and overcast skies, we had trouble getting things coordinated. He flies for Delta out of Atlanta from Thursday through Sunday. He normally flies back from Atlanta on Sunday or Monday. Instead, he flew into Austin, rented a car and drove down to Lockhart, then drove north to Dallas afterwards. I gave him $150 to cover the car rental and gas. I had planned on taking him to have BBQ, but he was in a hurry to head home. He said that he does it as a service to the EAA community. It sure beats the local DAR's prices. =20 =20 Mark =20 =09 =20 On 7/9/07, Christopher Barber < CBarber@texasattorney.net > wrote:=20 Thanks for the update, success and the report on Ron Gowen. He is who I plan to call first as I have not only met him, he let me fly from the back seat of one of his Vari-EZ's when I was up in Denton visiting Alex a few years ago. I think he either has or had a rotory powered EZ (even though the one I flew in had a Lyc). The day I was there, he had just recieved a new Marconni PSRU. He was very pleased with it.=20 =20 If you don't mind, would you please share the details of his cost and expectations as to come for a visit? =20 Congrats on turning your piles of fiberglass, metal and foam into a real honest to goodness flying machine. =20 All the best, =20 Chris Barber Houston ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:59 PM=20 =09 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook Question=20 =09 =20 Kelly,=20 =20 Thanks for the words of encouragement. The rains have stopped here in central Texas, the sun is once again shining, and the doves returned to the ark with twigs in their mouths. The DAR came out to the airport today in his kayak and did the final inspection on my Lancair ES/20B project. And he actually signed it off!!! So, it is officially an "airplane" and no longer a "project". How about that? Its been a long haul, but now the fun begins... as soon as I get some recurrency training to bring me up to speed. He said I did a good job with much attention to detail, then he took my money and left. ;-) I'll should get the paperwork in the mail in a few days. Soon I'll be starting the 40-hour testing phase. I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that would have put me over the Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 miles. He said that the FAA frowns on more than that, especially with auto conversions. So, I'lll have to make do with a 100 mile radius. =20 =20 If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would highly recommend this inspector. His name is Ron Gowan. He has 500 hrs PIC flying a rotary. He also has composites experience. I felt that he would be a good choice even if he didn't have extensive composites experience. =20 He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the psru and the cooling system. He said that the rotary engine is rock solid. (That really impressed the old timers at the airport.)=20 =20 So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, there is a glorious day coming. ;-) =20 Mark S. =09 =20 On 7/7/07, Kelly Troyer < keltro@att.net > wrote:=20 Mark, Pulling for you !! You will certainly have one going and beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for the Rotary movement in general and a worthy addition to the somewhat rare 20B engine group....... -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 =09 =09 =09 =20 =20 -------------- Original message from "Mark Steitle" < msteitle@gmail.com >: --------------=20 =09 > Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Here's a non-rotary question for the group. The DAR will be=20 >> coming out Monday morning to inspect my project. Hopefully it=20 >> will qualify as an airplane once he's done. He mentioned to me to >> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can make his=20 >> required log entry. (Here's the problem.) I don't have a logbook=20 >> yet. But according to an A&P on the Lancair list, the logbook can >> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even on computer. I would=20 >> like to make one up in the 3-ring binder format, but don't have=20 >> any idea of what's required. Anyone on the list been through thi s >> and have a page format they are willing to share? Mark S.=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7C7C4.97124178 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks = Mark,

 

Yes, I live in Plano, TX and have a hangar at the McKinney municipal airport.  You can see and read about my = project at http:/= /www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10=

 

I am currently working on the = engine baffling.  Everything else = is pretty much done.  But as you = know, it is all the remaining little details that take = forever.

 

Bob

 

From: = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, July 12, = 2007 6:24 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Logbook Question

 

His phone number is 817/975-2138.  Email is rongowan@yahoo.com.  I take = it you live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area? 

 

Mark

 

On 7/12/07, Rogers, Bob J. <BRogers@fdic.gov> wrote:

Mark,

 

I would like to use Ron Gowan as my DAR when the time = comes to have my rotary powered Mustang II inspected (within the next year, I = hope).  Do you have a phone number for Ron that I could call to contact = him?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob Rogers

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Steitle

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:08 = PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook = Question


 

Chris,

The only thing he asked me to do was pay for his gas to fly down.  He = indicated that $10 would suffice, but we both know that that wouldn't hardly get = him to the runup area.  Due to all the heavy rains and overcast skies, we = had trouble getting things coordinated.  He flies for Delta out of = Atlanta from Thursday through Sunday.  He normally flies back from = Atlanta on = Sunday or Monday.  Instead, he flew into Austin, rented a car and drove down to Lockhart, then drove north to Dallas afterwards.  I gave him = $150 to cover the car rental and gas.  I had planned on taking him to have BBQ, but he was in a hurry to head home.  He said that he = does it as a service to the EAA community.  It sure beats the local = DAR's prices.  

 

Mark   

 

On 7/9/07, Christopher = Barber < CBarber@texasattorney.net > wrote:

Thanks for the update, success and the report on Ron Gowen.  He is who I = plan to call first as I have not only met him, he let me fly from the back seat = of one of his Vari-EZ's when I was up in Denton visiting Alex a few years = ago.  I think he either has or had a rotory powered EZ (even though the one I = flew in had a Lyc).  The day I was there, he had just recieved a new = Marconni PSRU.  He was very pleased with it.

 

If you don't mind, would you please share the details of his cost and = expectations as to come for a visit?

 

Congrats on turning your piles of fiberglass, metal and foam into a real honest = to goodness flying machine.

 

All the best,

 

Chris Barber

Houston

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Steitle

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:59 = PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Logbook = Question


 

Kelly,

 

Thanks for the words of encouragement.  The rains = have stopped here in central Texas, the sun is once again shining, and the doves returned to = the ark with twigs in their mouths.  The DAR came out to the airport today = in his kayak and did the final inspection on my Lancair ES/20B project.  And he actually signed it off!!!  So, it = is officially an "airplane" and no longer a = "project".  How about that?  Its been a long haul, but now the fun = begins... as soon as I get some recurrency training to bring me up to speed.  He said I did a good job with much attention to detail, then he = took my money and left.  ;-)  I'll should get the paperwork in the mail in a few days.  Soon I'll be starting the = 40-hour testing phase.  I had asked for a 200 mile radius, but that would = have put me over the Houston area, so he cut it down to 100 miles.  He said that the FAA frowns = on more than that, especially with auto conversions.  So, I'lll have = to make do with a 100 mile radius. 

 

If anyone wants/needs a DAR with rotary experience, and you're in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, I would = highly recommend this inspector.  His name is Ron Gowan.  He has 500 = hrs PIC flying a rotary.  He also has composites experience.  I = felt that he would be a good choice even if he didn't have extensive = composites experience. 

He said the two biggest areas to pay very close attention is the psru and the = cooling system.  He said that the rotary engine is rock solid. (That really impressed the old timers at the airport.)

 

So, all you guys working away month after month, keep the faith, there is a = glorious day coming. ;-)

 

Mark S.

 

On 7/7/07, Kelly Troyer = < keltro@att.net> = wrote:

Mark,

   Pulling for you  !!  You will certainly have one going = and

beautiful aircraft........Will absolutely be a plus for the = Rotary

movement in general and a worthy addition to the = somewhat

rare 20B engine group.......

--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold



 

 

-------------- Original message from "Mark Steitle" < = msteitle@gmail.com>: --------------

> Mark Steitle wrote:
>
>> Here's a non-rotary question for the group.  The DAR = will be
>> coming out Monday morning to inspect my = project.  Hopefully it
>> will qualify as an airplane once he's done.  He = mentioned to me to
>> be sure to have my airframe logbook so that he can make his =
>> required log entry.  (Here's the = problem.)  I don't have a logbook
>> yet.  But according to an A&P on the Lancair = list, the logbook can
>> be done in 3-ring binder format, or even on = computer.  I would
>> like to make one up in the 3-ring binder format, but don't have =
>> any idea of what's required.  Anyone on the list been through thi s
>> and have a page format they are willing to = share?  Mark S.

 

 

 

 

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