X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [204.209.205.52] (HELO defout.telus.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2133833 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:26:34 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.209.205.52; envelope-from=shane@innovativewings.com Received: from priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net ([75.153.144.230]) by priv-edmwes34.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20070622152555.ZHXN26880.priv-edmwes34.telusplanet.net@priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:25:55 -0600 Received: from ownerk7wszcmrz (unknown [75.153.144.230]) by priv-edmwaa06.telusplanet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Infinity Mail Firewall) with SMTP id 3F32J11UGB for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:25:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <002a01c7b4e1$9f9609c0$e690994b@ownerk7wszcmrz> From: "Shane Daly" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:25:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C7B4AF.54630340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C7B4AF.54630340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ed, I already have an old style 13B turboed engine that I am starting with, = so that decision has been made. I also have a local guy that specializes = in building rotary's for racing and he has done a couple of aircraft = engines in the past. He is Adam of RX-7 Specialties. Thanks again, Shane Daly ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ed Anderson=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New lurker on the list Welcome aboard, Shane A 13B turbo should make that Glasair really boogie. All questions are = welcomed, responses are varied but, we do have folks with decades of = rotary engine experience and real -world experience with the use of it = in racing and aircraft. Data, opinions, rationale, facts, speculations, = problems, challenges, wishes and hopes can all be found here, you're = responsible for sorting them in to appropriate categories {:>). I would say the first decision you need to make about the engine is = whether to go with the newer Rensesis 13B or the older Rx-7 13B. If you = want turbo, the Renesis does not currently (but rumors abound about a = future Forced Induction Renesis) come configured for one - although, it = is certainly possible to roll your own turbo version. Members of the = list have found that for the most part the stock automobile turbo which = is designed for short power bursts does not do well in aircraft = application (although with very low boost levels, some have had = success). So a different turbo package would likely be the smart thing = in any case. Plenty of older 13B's around but of course the parts = availability down the road will probably start to decrease. Both the = older 13B and Renesis appear to work equally well - with the Renesis = giving a bit more power. Just one of the many design decisions you will face. So, again welcome to the list. Best Regards Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shane Daly=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] New lurker on the list Hi all, I am new to the list just getting started on a 13B turbo conversion = I plan to put into a Glasair 1TD that I am also just starting to build. = I have built a few fast glass aircraft in the past, so I have no issues = with putting the Glasair together, but I am green when it comes to = building up a rotary. I hope you don't mind a few newbie questions once = in a while? I have gone through the archives and there is a lot of great = info there, so that is where I will start. I look forward to getting to = know both the engine and the community as I progress. Shane Daly Calgary, Canada -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: = 6/20/2007 2:18 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C7B4AF.54630340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Ed,
 
I already have an old style 13B turboed = engine that=20 I am starting with, so that decision has been made. I also have a = local guy=20 that specializes in building  rotary's for racing and he has done a = couple=20 of aircraft engines in the past. He is Adam of RX-7 = Specialties.
 
Thanks again,
 
Shane Daly
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 = 6:35=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New = lurker on=20 the list

Welcome aboard, Shane
 
A 13B turbo should make that Glasair really=20 boogie.  All questions are welcomed, responses are varied but, we = do have=20 folks with decades of rotary engine experience and real -world = experience with=20 the use of it in racing and aircraft.  Data, opinions, rationale, = facts,=20 speculations, problems, challenges, wishes and hopes can all be found = here,=20 you're responsible for sorting them in to appropriate categories=20 {:>).
 
I would say the first decision you need to = make about=20 the engine is whether to go with the newer Rensesis 13B or the older = Rx-7=20 13B.  If you want turbo, the Renesis does not currently (but = rumors=20 abound about a future Forced Induction Renesis) come configured for = one -=20 although, it is certainly possible to roll your own turbo = version. =20 Members of the list have found that for the most part the stock = automobile=20 turbo which is  designed for short power bursts does not do well = in=20 aircraft application (although with very low boost levels, some have = had=20 success).   So a different turbo package would likely be the = smart thing=20 in any case.  Plenty of older 13B's around but of course the = parts=20 availability down the road will probably start to decrease.  Both = the=20 older 13B and Renesis appear to work equally well - with the = Renesis=20 giving a bit more power.
 
Just one of the many design decisions you will = face.
 
So, again welcome to the list.
 
Best Regards
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary = Powered
Matthews,=20 NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shane Daly
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, = 2007 10:23=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] New = lurker on the=20 list

Hi all,
 
I am new to the list just getting = started on a=20 13B turbo conversion I plan to put into a Glasair 1TD that I am also = just=20 starting to build. I have built a few fast glass aircraft in the = past, so I=20 have no issues with putting the Glasair together, but I am green = when it=20 comes to building up a rotary. I hope you don't mind a few newbie = questions=20 once in a while? I have gone through the archives and there is a lot = of=20 great info there, so that is where I will start. I look forward = to=20 getting to know both the engine and the community as I=20 progress.
 
Shane Daly
Calgary,=20 Canada

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