Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37684
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Single rotor video
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:27:31 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
 Rusty,
 I will leave the video for a couple of days so as to not bog down your ISP.
However I have had a long time to consider Dampers and have gone for the polyurethane type (about 90 shore) as this has been tried on a 4 cylinder and has been on the internet somewhere and showed up on the of the discussion groups and in Contact mag I believe.
 
I know that Tracy suggests the softer the better but it's a 2 rotor and with no  toque reversals  -that's understandable.
 
The article suggested softer rubber dampers turned to dust in short order.
The reason is, I believe, the distance between +ve and -ve torque responses is much longer and the damper is caught going one way when it is forced to go another ( in layman's language). For this reason I believe the stiffer dampers less inclined to travel as far, as quickly.
 
The material I have selected is readily available and I purchased 300mm for $30. This is the stuff they make for the aftermarket 4WD spring mounts.
 
Also Tracy suggests the more toward the outer edge of the flywheel the better for mounting the 2 rotor mounting - again understandable. However for the larger torque fluctuations, I believe it logical that the closer toward the centre with limit the travel.
 
Hope that helps.
George ( down under)
Greetings,
 
I made a short video yesterday of a single rotor run.  The purpose was to demonstrate and document the prop tip behavior with the stock rubber coupler/damper, so I can see if it gets any better with the new softer one.  
 
As you can see, it gets pretty wild at times, particularly when changing rpms.  I'm not sure this is completely abnormal though, because I've watched the Subaru engines on the RAF2000 gyro do the exact same thing.  They even have a bit of tip wandering too, so some of this may be OK.
 
During the video, you'll hear me say 2600 rpm, and at that point, the tips are wandering fore and aft a bit.  The next rpm tested was 3500, and it appears fairly smooth.  You'll note that my throttle control doesn't have much friction, and closes itself if I don't hold it.  By the time I say 3500 rpm into the camera, you can see that the engine has slowed down considerably, so 3500 is the point where I get up to come back to the camera, not when I say 3500.  For that reason, 4000 rpm became a hand signal, and appears perfectly smooth.     
 
The video is 60 MB, so not for the dialup crowd unless you download it overnight.  Also, if there's more traffic than I expect, I may have to shut the link down to preserve my web space quota for the month. 
 
 
Rusty
 
 
 
 
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