Return-Path: Received: from border.rfgonline.com ([65.171.123.242] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP-TLS id 2633249 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:19:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 28799 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2003 02:23:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO EXCHANGE.rfgonline.com) (192.168.150.101) by 192.168.150.1 with SMTP; 12 Oct 2003 02:23:39 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: EWP - Response from DaviesCraig Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:18:57 -0400 Message-ID: <0B27ED95697C4D4CBC82D79E790FE567086F89@exchange.rfgonline.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: EWP - Success at last? Thread-Index: AcOQIsnqaQB8vtKSSbqYhWG0z3376gAQ5OjQ From: "Robinson, Chad" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Hello all, DaviesCraig responded to my inquiry today, saying that there is hardly = any resistance to flow while the pump is off, and that a series setup is = a solution they think will work well. Their exact response is below, but = what it basically means is that no valves and plumbing complications are = required - just pass the flow from one to the other, and you can run = either pump, or both. This device is looking better every day! Oh, and yes, the all-caps was their idea, not mine. =3D) Regards, Chad --------------------------------------------------------- DEAR CHAD, Thanks for your email and Davies, Craig EWP enquiry. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Robinson, Chad" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: EWP - backflow? Some fellows and I are discussing the use of this pump in an area where redundancy is preferable. I can't seem to find information on your site regarding backflow in the event the pump is not operating. That is, what resistance to flow exists if the pump is off? HARDLY ANY ESPECIALLY = IN COMPARISON TO THE RESISTANCE TO FLOW OF A RADIATOR TUBE. IF YOU HAVE A = EWP YOU CAN LOOK INTO THE INLET AND SEE THE SIZE OF THE OPENING PAST THE IMPELLER AND INTO THE OUTLET. If it is low, we would need a check valve, but if it is high we might = get away without one. Also, if it is VERY low, we might put the pumps in = series. PUMPS IN SERIES SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER In this second case, the goal would be to provide additional flow during times that require high cooling, or if the first pump fails. How does = this pump handle flow above its design limit? NO TROUBLE - WE HAE MANY EWPs INSTALLED AS A BOOSTER TO THE ORIGINAL BELT DRIVE MECHANICAL PUMP . HERE = IS OUR TECHNICAL BULLETIN ON THIS SUBJECT. EWP TECHNICAL BULLETINS EWP AS A BOOSTER PUMP What a lot of our customers in your situation have done with great = success is add the EWP (part no 8005) into the lower radiator hose, wired direct = to the battery via an on/off thermal switch (part no 0401) and use the EWP = as a booster pump. Both the existing belt driven mechanical pump and the EWP will pump = through each other when running alone and they will boost each other when = running at the same time. In fact, when running together they will pump more than = the sum of the two, pumping alone. You set the temp switch to the temp below which you want the engine to = run. If the temp goes above that set temp, the EWP will turn on and run until = the engine temp is 4 degrees C cooler and switch off. When you turn off a hot engine, the heat in the exhaust manifold passes = to the block and the engine temp actually increases after you turn off the engine. If the head is alloy and the block iron, they will expand at different rates and the head will tend to twist to accommodate the difference, then the head gasket will be damaged. Being wired direct to the battery, when you turn off a hot engine, the = EWP will run and wash out heat soak until the engine temp reaches the set = temp less 4c. After the EWP turns off, the heat may still transfer and the = EWP will turn on for another short period. The EWP may run for about 4 = minutes all up and at 6 amps there will be very little drain on the battery. This will eliminate heat soak and the engine damage associated with it. MOUNT THE EWP IN THE LOWER RADIATOR HOSE IS BEST Does it provide impetus, or will it cap off at a certain limit (or = worse, overspeed?). That could make putting them in series a bad idea. I AM = NOT SURE JUST EXACTLY WHAT YOUR APPLICATION IS SO IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO COMMENT ON THIS. Regards, Richard Davies Managing Director Davies, Craig Pty. Ltd. PLEASE NOTE : WE HAVE MOVED TO 77 TARAS AVENUE, BOX 363 ALTONA NORTH, VICTORIA , 3025 AUSTRALIA TEL: +61 (0) 3 9369 1234 FAX 9369 3456 WEB page www.daviescraig.com.au