Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail1.aceweb.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2631744 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:11:41 -0400 Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [208.187.45.36]) by ispwestemail1.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 2.1.268) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:17:24 -0700 Message-ID: <04fb01c38f51$b3b348a0$252dbbd0@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: pump power Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:41:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 "Ed Anderson" wrote > > Bill, is the second chart showing approx 0.175 HP required for 20 gph flow? > and given a 50% efficiency for an electric motor the actually HP required by > an electric motor around 0.35 HP? If so that is still within the ball park > of the EWP. ------------ Ed, The curve shows that the power incorporated into the water *at 20 gpm and 15psi* is only .175 HP, i.e. that much power has been used to raise the pressure and flow rate. However, *pumps* are not 100% efficient, so I arbitrarily showed the plot for a 50% pump efficiency. Unfortunately, I have no way of telling the efficiency of the pump, could be 50%, or more-or-less. This just shows that the actual work needed to move the water around the system is not huge, but it doesn't say anything about the power absorbed by a belt-driven pump that is throttled. Power delivered to the pump can be converted to heat (wasted) or work (pumping water). Overspeeding the pump ensures that you get more heat at high rpm's. Bill