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From: "Joe Berki" <jskmberki@alltel.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard landing damage
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:49:48 -0500
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Bob,

My feelings go out you.  We are glad that you were not hurt.  What you have
went through is something that we all have faced, making decisions that
affect us the rest of our lives.  I have a friend with a Tailwind with a
0-320 that is complete ready to fly.  He built his plane with a buddy who
was also building a Tailwind and upon completion, attempted to fly it and
had difficulty upon landing and totaled the ac luckily he was not hurt.  My
friend wants to convert it to tricycle before he flies it.  What ever you
decide it will be right for you.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob White" <rlwhite@comcast.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:21 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Hard landing damage


> Hi George,
>
> Yours is the latest message I've received expressing your thankfulness
> that I wasn't seriously hurt so I will reply all of them here.
>
> First, thanks to all of you.  This list is a great community and
> provides a tremendous amount of support.  And a special thanks to Lynn
> for the encouraging words about repairing the BD-4.
>
> I spent several hours talking to the nice man from the FAA yesterday,
> then several hours trying to get an airplane with no mains on a flat
> bed trailer.  Didn't sleep much Saturday night either.
>
> I have found that my perception of what I was doing didn't match the
> reality.  The primary problem was that I misjudged the flare on my
> landing and bounced pretty hard 2 or 3 times.  I then turned what was
> going to be a really bad landing into something that may be an incident
> or may be an accident.  They will tell me later.  I did this by
> deciding the landing was really coming out bad and I would be better
> off going around.  So, I applied full power.  My perception was that I
> was flying in ground effect just off the runway.  In fact, I think the
> wheels were on the ground most of the time.  The plane left the runway
> on the north side (RWY 26) and I steered back to the left.  The ground
> slopes off on the south side of the runway and I thought if I had
> another couple of feet of air under me I had a better chance of getting
> back to flying speed.
>
> Yesterday, I was looking over the path I had taken to where the plane
> came to a stop.  There were tire tracks in the weeds and I followed
> them back all the way to the runway.  So the reality was that for that
> whole time the wheels were on the ground.  I could have pulled power
> and done a lot less damage.
>
> I will wait a few days before making any firm decision about rebuilding
> the plane.  If I do, I think I will make it a tricycle gear again.
> That will give me one less problem while I rebuild my piloting skills.
>
> Attached is a photo of my wheels up landing.  Can I log some retract
> time!  Probably not.
>
> Bob W.
>
>
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:33:46 -0800 (PST)
> George Graham <rx7ez@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My heart goes out to Mr White, to suffer such a catastrophy.
> >
> > I had a similar landing many years ago, on our first New York to Florida
trip.
> > The winds in South Carolina were severe, and I didn't add enough speed
to my landing, my bird really fell from the sky bouncing hard, I didn't
think fast enough to go around, and pushed the nose down instead. The second
bounce was worse than the first, and the nose gear linkage broke collapsing
the nose gear.  The main gear legs spread so much that the brake bleeders
were ground off the calipers.  The main gear attach bolts were bent. My wife
had black and blue marks from the shoulder harness.  That landing was on a
Saturday, and we ddn't get the bird home until the next Saturday.
> >
> > But then I read about a similar landing in Southern Ontario, that
airplane had a fuel tank in front of the instrument panel, and the nose gear
linkage punctured it. Both persons on board perished in the fire.
> >
> > How lucky we were to be alive and able to repair the damage.
> >
> >
> > George Graham
> > Sarasota Florida
> > Mazda RX7 EZ
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Don't pick lemons.
> > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
>
> -- 
> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
> First Flight:  11/23/2006 7:50AM - 3.3 Hours Total Time
> Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/
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