X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1547791 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:10:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-098-162.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.98.162]) by ms-smtp-03.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id kA9DA4I9013076 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001c70400$716f0200$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: P Porting template? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:10:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C703D6.882DB510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C703D6.882DB510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jerry, Good to hear from you. Yes, even rolling your own is not cheap when it = comes to aircraft - especially on retired pay. I certainly understand = your enjoyment in building - I fall into the same camp. I love to fly, = but, find myself mainly doing it to test some "improvement". As I said, I'm certainly not against the "P" port and am looking forward = to your reports when you have one up and running. In the meantime, = don't be a stranger. Ed ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jerry Hey=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:13 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: P Porting template? Hi Ed, I am still here and still working on engine development. The = on going project is the S-beam engine mount which now comes with a = custom oil pan. It is a good deal. I am still very committed to p = ports and can bore housings, supply inserts and so on. I love the rotary = engine. I don't say much over here because I might slip up and mention = Paul Lamar in a favorable light. I don't want to cause anyone to have a = heart attack. =20 =20 Unfortunately, my retirement income does not allow me to maintain a = plane. Hanger rent, insurance, etc. I sold my flying Tailwind but I = intend to resume work on the rotary powered one this winter. Eventually = it will be sold as a project but not until it is finished firewall = forward. I've slowly come to realize that I would rather build than fly = anyway.=20 Life is good. Regards, Jerry =20 =20 On Nov 8, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: Hi Doug, If you want to develop between 160 and 170 HP from a 13B, I for one = would not consider a P port. The reason, is that the stock 13B will = easily give you that kind of power with less effort and cost. If you = wanted HP on the order of 200 + then a P port might be one approach to = consider.=20 Now if you simply want to experiment with a P port, then got to it. = But, it is simply not needed for the power levels you are looking for. The only person I am aware of who may have the information you want = is Jerry Hey - he use to be on the list, but I have not seeing anything = from him recently. This is the last e mail address I have for Jerry = Hey E-mail Address(es): jerryhey@earthlink.net you might send him a message. Best Regards Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: DLOMHEIM@aol.com To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] P Porting template? I have a friend in Denver who is willing to set up his milling = machine to mill out some P-Ports on a couple of my old rotor housings = over Thanksgiving break. My question is if any of you know where I can = get a copy of a template for use with 1.5" diameter intake pipes. I = would think there would be something in the public domain by now (but I = could be wrong). The potential benefits of a P-Port make it pretty = attractive to at least experiment with at some point and I will be happy = to develop between 160 and 170 hp in my 9A so I think that should be = doable... Doug RV-9A, 13B installation=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C703D6.882DB510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jerry,
 
Good to hear from you.  Yes, even rolling = your own is=20 not cheap when it comes to aircraft - especially on retired = pay.   I=20 certainly understand your enjoyment in building - I fall into the same=20 camp.  I love to fly, but, find myself mainly doing it to test some = "improvement".
 
As I said, I'm certainly not against the "P" = port and am=20 looking forward to your reports when you have one up and running.  = In the=20 meantime, don't be a stranger.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerry=20 Hey
Sent: Thursday, November 09, = 2006 7:13=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: P = Porting=20 template?

Hi Ed,  I am still here and still working on = engine=20 development.  The on going project is the S-beam engine mount = which now=20 comes with a custom oil pan. It is a good deal.   I am still = very=20 committed to p ports and can bore housings, supply inserts and so on. = I love=20 the rotary engine.  I don't say much over here because I might = slip up=20 and mention Paul Lamar in a favorable light. I don't want to cause = anyone to=20 have a heart attack.    
  
Unfortunately, my retirement income does not allow me to maintain = a=20 plane.  Hanger rent, insurance, etc.    I sold my  = flying=20 Tailwind but I intend to resume work on the rotary powered one this=20 winter.  Eventually it will be sold as a project  but not = until it=20 is finished firewall forward.  I've slowly come to realize that I = would=20 rather build than fly anyway. 
 
 Life is good.   Regards,  Jerry





       



   
On Nov 8, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
Hi=20 Doug,
 
If you want to = develop=20 between 160 and 170 HP from a 13B, I for one would not consider a P=20 port.  The reason, is that the stock 13B will easily give you = that kind=20 of power with less effort and cost.  If you wanted HP on the = order of=20 200 + then a P port might be one approach to=20 consider. 
 
Now if you = simply want to=20 experiment with a P port, then got to it.  But, it is simply = not needed=20 for the power levels you are looking for.
 
The only = person I am aware=20 of who may have the information you want is Jerry Hey - he use to be = on the=20 list, but I have not seeing anything from him = recently.   =20 This is the last e mail address I have for Jerry HeyE-mail Address(es):  jerryhey@earthlink.net
 
you might send = him a=20 message.
 
 
Best=20 Regards
 
Ed
----- Original = Message=20 -----
Sent:=20 Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject:=20 [FlyRotary] P Porting template?
I have=20 a friend in Denver who is willing to set up his milling = machine to=20 mill out some P-Ports on a couple of my old rotor housings = over=20 Thanksgiving break.  My question is if any of you know where = I=20 can get a copy of a template for use with 1.5" diameter = intake=20 pipes.  I would think there would be something in = the public=20 domain by now (but I could be wrong).  The potential benefits = of a=20 P-Port make it pretty attractive to at least experiment with at = some point=20 and I will be happy to develop between 160 and 170 hp in my = 9A so I=20 think that should be doable...
 
Doug
RV-9A,=20 13B installation 

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