X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.101] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1541687 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:00:54 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-098-162.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.98.162]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id kA7G0IMA018640 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000f01c70285$e2771770$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Normal Engine Paramaters Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:00:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Hi Dennis, Yes, here's some snippets of the data I recorded on the trip Static at take off was 6200 rpm (a bit higher due to the colder (32F) dense air - my nominal static is 6000). It is clear the prop (Performance 74dx88p) is stalled on take off roll as you can hear the "wop,wop" as it stalls/unstalls as the cowl/prop interaction occurs. After lift off the prop unstalls and loads-up pulling the rpm down to 5900-6000. During more nominal temperatures (50F on up) I do not notice the stalled effect. Fully loaded max rate of climb I saw on trip after take off was 1600 fpm. Most were closer to 1400 fpm at gross weight. My take off weight fully loaded is 1750 lbs. Here are a few of the data points I logged on the trip 5800 rpm and 8 GPH fuel burn gave a TAS of 164 MPH at 6500 MSL, Oil 175F Coolant 170F OAT 43F 6000 rpm and 9 GPH fuel burn gave a TAS of 175 MPH at 9600 MSL, Oil 160F Coolant 160F OAT 39F 6400 rpm and 10.3 GPH fuel burn gave a TAS of 191 MPH at 7500 MSL, Oil 175 Coolant 175 OAT 30F Keep in mind that my heavy RV-6A is a bit on the draggy side with a overly large bottom cowl opening and two mufflers in the slip stream. I have an "older" 13B (91 turbo block) so do not produce quite the HPof the newer Rensis engine. I wouldn't be too concerned about your static at this point, Dennis. Yes, it could stand to be a bit higher, but while I did have a 76dx88p prop initially,I later had 2" removed from the diameter to bring my static up from 5800 to 6000 rpm. Also I found with the 76 dia prop, the "P" factor, Prop Stream or whatever, I did not have enough rudder control on initial roll at WOT. Made for some exciting early take offs, also cutting the prop provided a bit more ground clearance. It seems few folks get the static power they are looking for without some tinkering with the induction/exhaust. You may find that you are a bit over propped, but I certainly would not do anything to the prop at this point. My personal opinion. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Haverlah" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Normal Engine Paramaters > Ed: > > Glad to hear you had an uneventful 1500 mile trip!! Would you post your > nominal static rpm, cruse rpm and gph fuel burn. Also any cruise air > speed numbers and altitudes would help. Are you still using an 88pX76dia > prop? What max. climb rates are you getting? > > I am about to start the auto-tune exercise on my ECM.. I've got the Catto > 88X76 composite 2 blade prop using Tracy's 2.81 psru and so far have only > been able to get 5400 rpm static. I hope to paint and assemble the A/C in > the next 2 months. > > Dennis H. > RV 7A, James Shark cowl > Tracy's ECM, EM, 2.8 psru > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >