X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.225.92] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.1) with ESMTP id 1515823 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:55:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.225.92; envelope-from=rlwhite@comcast.net Received: from quail.site (c-68-35-160-229.hsd1.nm.comcast.net[68.35.160.229]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with SMTP id <20061031015517b12007kbj5e>; Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:55:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:55:51 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector bosses Message-Id: <20061030185551.5b7e561d.rlwhite@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.7 (GTK+ 2.8.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:36:17 -0500 "Ed Anderson" wrote: > > > > > I may have some (a lot of) mis-information in my head. I had assumed > > that the injectors in the block were the secondaries because those > > ports are smaller. I'm not actually using injectors in that location > > as all of my injectors are in the tubes feeding the ports. Will I have > > any problems using the smaller ports as secondaries and the larger ones > > as primaries? Would it be different if I had the injectors in the > > block? > > > > Bob W. > > > >> > > No, just the opposite, Bob. The injectors in the center housing are the > primary injectors fed by the two small port openings in the center of the > intake manifold (stock). The secondary runners are larger in diameter than > the primary runners in the stock manifold. This permits the secondary > runners to flow more air easier as the demand for air increases as rpm and > power goes up. Generally the primary injectors are on all the time from > idle to WOT (one reason they are called primaries) whereas the secondary > injectors are normally only on when the demand for more fuel (rpm and power > increasing) reaches a certain point. This is referred to as "Staging" where > it goes from 2 injectors (primaries) to 4 injectors (Primary + Secondary) > working. If you are using stock 13B Mazda injectors the engine will run at > approx 90 % power on either pair of injectors. > > Also the intake port timing is different (in the stock block), with the > primary ports opening sooner than the secondary ports and the secondary > ports closing later than the primaries (it varies a bit from one year and > model (N/A vs Turbo)). > > But, its really not a problem Bob. All you have to do to make the two > center housing intake ports correspond to your primary injectors is to make > certain the electrical connectors from the primary injector wires of Tracy's > EC2 go to the injectors feeding those ports. Wait, I guess it could make a > difference if the flow rate of your primary injectors and secondary > injectors are considerably different. Mine are the same flow rate - so it > doesn't matter. If your injector flow rates are different then you want the > smaller flow injectors feeding the center housing ports and the larger flow > injectors feeding your secondary ports. > > Your engine would run with either set up - but I would highly recommend > setting it up conventionally. > > Ed > > Ed Anderson > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > Matthews, NC > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > Thanks Ed. That all makes sense. I'll see what I've actually got wired up next trip to the airport. Bob W. (Still working on my tailwheel endorsement.) -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com First engine start 1/7/06 - Special Airworthiness Certificate 10/1/06 Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/