X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1300901 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:34:43 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=WRJJRS@aol.com Received: from WRJJRS@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.c17.660466 (40522) for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: WRJJRS@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 21:33:57 EDT Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] NO2 Bottle Explosion To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1154741637" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5032 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1154741637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/4/2006 5:11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes: Hi Bill, Yes, I realize that being only an oxidizer that without fuel, you would not have a combustion type explosion. But as the photo of the guy's car shows - even the overheated bottle by itself made an impressive amount of shredded metal out of his car. Like you point out - a burst water heater can do an unbelievable amount of damage. But, I hate to think of what it would have been like had fuel been available when the bottle burst. Since the bottle shows no sign of scorching, fairly clear no combustion took place. Here's the link if you want to look at more photos _http://www.healthyhome.net/NOS2.htm_ (http://www.healthyhome.net/NOS2.htm) One thing having this happen to back-end of parked car, another thing to think of it in my airplane. Not trying to imply NO2 is not safe handled properly - Its just I just don't need THAT kind of boost {:>). Ed The burst pressure of a well designed pressure vessel can be amazing! No need for more photos I truly understand what can happen with too much pressure. Gasoline explosions can be truly impressive as well. It all depends on what you are comfortable with. The only point I was making was that the complexity and weight of a electrically driven supercharger would be major, (think of the manifolding!), whereas the Nos bottle and plumbing including controls could be less than 10 pounds for a small bottle. Just the thing for a "little help" occasionally. Bill -------------------------------1154741637 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 8/4/2006 5:11:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:

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Hi Bill,

Yes, I realize that being only an oxidizer that wi= thout=20 fuel, you would not have a combustion type explosion. But as the pho= to=20 of the guy's car shows - even the overheated bottle by itself made an=20 impressive amount of shredded metal out of his car. Like you point o= ut -=20 a burst water heater can do an unbelievable amount of=20 damage.

But, I hate to think of what it would have b= een=20 like had fuel been available when the bottle burst.

Since the bottle shows no sign of scorching, fairl= y=20 clear no combustion took place.

Here's the link if you want to look at= more=20 photos http://www.healthyhome.net/NO= S2.htm

One thing having this happen to back-end of parked= car,=20 another thing to think of it in my airplane.

Not trying to imply=20 NO2 is not safe handled properly - Its just I just don't need THAT ki= nd=20 of boost {:>).

Ed

The burst pressure of a well designed pressure vessel can be amazi= ng!=20 No need for more photos I truly understand what can happen with too much=20 pressure. Gasoline explosions can be truly impressive as well. It all depend= s on=20 what you are comfortable with. The only point I was making was that the=20 complexity and weight of a electrically driven supercharger would be major,=20 (think of the manifolding!), whereas the Nos bottle and plumbing including=20 controls could be less than 10 pounds for a small bottle. Just the thing for= a=20 "little help" occasionally.

Bill

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