X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1335264 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:14:51 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=171.71.176.71; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2006 08:13:41 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.07,209,1151910000"; d="scan'208"; a="333741791:sNHT26922164" Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k73FDfgl032711 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:13:41 -0700 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k73FDfBc026977 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.38]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:13:36 -0400 Received: from [64.102.38.136] ([64.102.38.136]) by xfe-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:13:36 -0400 Message-ID: <44D212A0.9020102@nc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:13:36 -0400 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Fw: AeroElectric-List: Alternator failure quits engine References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Aug 2006 15:13:36.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[649078E0:01C6B70F] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4.cisco.com; header.From=echristley@nc.rr.com; dkim=neutral Ed Anderson wrote: > Here is a story failure mode of an alternative engine on another list > that I found interesting. I rather doubt that stuck belts would cause > a rotary to stop - although if at idle rpm, it just might. I recall > one of rotary flyer who had a bolt jam the water pump pulley, but this > caused both belts to jump off the water pump pulley. No coolant > circulating, but pilot made it back to the airfield, had to make a > go-a-round due to conflicting traffic, but landed safely. Engine was > toast but still running when he shut it down. > > Ed > >> >> The cause and subsequent sequence of events has now been established. >> >> Alternator bearing seizure initiated dual rubber v-belt slip at the >> crankshaft >> pulley. >> In 2-3 seconds 50 cruise hp turned both rubber belts into smoke and >> vulcanised >> them instead of driving the now freewheeling prop (no flywheel effect to >> snap >> belts). >> >> The alternator was switched off immediately but to no benefit since its >> load was >> not the issue. >> >> So instead of the crankshaft pulley driving the alternator, the >> alternator >> now >> seized was now driving the engine to a stop! A relatively minor >> accessory >> failure >> had initiated a cascade of events equivalent or even worse than a major >> engine >> failure. > This sounds strange, Ed. A couple of slipping belts stopped the engine? Is that possible? -- ,|"|"|, Ernest Christley | ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder | o| d |o http://ernest.isa-geek.org |