X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.167] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTPS id 955710 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 05:00:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.133.167; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (220.237.250.229.optusnet.com.au [220.237.250.229] (may be forged)) by mail26.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id k0R9xfYd025181 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:59:44 +1100 Message-ID: <009801c62328$68028f20$e5faeddc@george> From: "george lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Guru - single rotor Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:59:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: GURU suppling single rotor parts! > I've just this morning spoken to the chief engineer of GURU (X-Treme > Rotaries) Rohan Ambrose. It took me a while but it has been extremely hectic > at GURU, but he took the time to ring me about the single- and yes Paul I > asked about the other parts as well. As you can imagine it was a long and > rather complex discussion shooting off in all directions, so I can't recall > all the prices etc. > > The bottom line for you enquiries is to contact Suzie at X-Treme > Rotaries and she will provide all the information/ prices ( and photo's) and > refer to Rohan for complex enquiries - he just can't handle all the e-mails > and do his job as chief engineer at the same time. > > BTW RX8 rotors can be wire cut by GURU, it is extremely accurate as he > explained, but to cut an RX8 he needs to go to 3mm otherwise there is a > step( between old and new depth) which could interfere with the apex seal. > So to use an RX8 rotor for PP it requires 3mm seals. he can also cut in > windows in the inside of the Rotor housing to retain some centre seal > support for larger PP. The method he uses is to screw in the port insert- it > is made out of solid so can be any size.He has found that this method is > less prone to leaking - it could be the filler he's using ? > > The e-shafts are make out of EN 36A, they are CNC'd shot peened, ground and > Carburised. I recommended another material as carburising is a hotter heat > treatment than Nitriding and can cause some distortion. > > They are looking at aluminium housing and have some made for testing - it's > a surface treatment and I suggested it may not stand up. He said he would > test it to it's limits. > > The through bolts ( housing) are 4340 > > The prices aren't cheap but their reasonable compared to 'one- offs' and the > quality is definitely 'there'. > > He will do single e-shafts but needs a minimum of ten to make it cost > effective 'economy of scale' etc. He is currently setting up for a 'single' dyno run. > He explained there are enormous torque reversals ( term?) in the single > rotor, so balancing is critical. The advice I posted previously on balancing > is supported by Guru and the US experts. > Hope this helps some! > George ( down under)