Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #29727
From: Buly <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators?
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:55:27 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I would advise anybody building a rotary powered plane to do the W&B before wiring the batteries permanently. I had mine installed and fully wired per plans on the spar. Than I had tear everything out and do it all over again at the nose of my CZ.

On Jan 25, 2006, at 11:44 AM, Mark R Steitle wrote:

Al,

Looking at a picture of your engine install (very nice), it appears that you’re running the factory Mazda (Mitsubishi) alternator?  If it is the same as those I have on hand, they weigh about 11#.  My rationale is that two ND alternators weigh 5.5#/ea, so there is little to no weight penalty.  If you could get by with a single ND unit, then you should see about 6# net savings.  In the conversion, I gained a second wp belt as well as electrical redundancy.  With the batteries back in the tail, I need plenty of amps to crank the 3-rotor (Batteries cross-feed during starting).  Add an all electric panel, and I felt the weight of the extra battery was worth it.  From what I’m told, most Lancair ES’s are nose heavy, at least with the IO-540 engine.  Also, all the Lancair ES’s I’ve seen are running two batteries, located in the tail. 

 

I’ll be doing the W&B soon, so we’ll see how it does compared to those “certified” guys.

 

Mark       

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Buly
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:35 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Two Alternators?

 

 



 

On Jan 25, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Al Gietzen wrote:



 

I have 2 alternators – although since I have 2 batteries and I’m heavy (the plane that is) – I’m considering taking one of the alternators out. I mounted the second alternator on the intake side just above where the water inlet is.  This picture isn’t very good – but you get the idea of where it is. It’s a small 6lb. Powermaster alternator.

 

Regards,

Joe Hull

 

It would seem that taking out one battery would get rid of more weight; unless you have some other reason for wanting to get rid of the second alternator. Although I’d say a battery is more reliable than an alternator.

 

I think two batteries and two alternators is redundant redundancy, and a weight penalty.  But that’s just me.

 

Al



 

I'm with Al on this. I have one 70A alternator and two batteries at the nose for CG purpose.

Bully



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