X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from m12.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with SMTP id 941179 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:42:28 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.136.30.75; envelope-from=alwick@juno.com Received: from m12.lax.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m12.lax.untd.com with SMTP id AABB7HWPJA3GW8W2 for (sender ); Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alwick@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LFCDQHHU; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:40:13 PST To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:33:46 -0800 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto fuel Message-ID: <20060122.103957.3132.11.alwick@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_7ba8.3106.5ae1 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,8-11,13-16,18-22,26-29,31,38-48,52-70,71-32767 From: al p wick X-ContentStamp: 22:11:3276208626 X-MAIL-INFO:286868159189c5e86909ac159cac8ccdf86148acddbcf55c91dd4861dde5dd71b57938dc6898158815c891598c0ca159e8895579d8a94d0d7979d579b1d1e96dfc79e901b96db10ce1e8f1d52c4945012d2cb8354d41588131413531c84935cdd179b1a585b918f528a93da998195c75959d7cd1f83838dcd86118d588d9f1 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: L941HVjjYzDhN3itp//mkFRQmuK7SATA31NGHRdhi8df8oNNfdPPlg== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m12.lax.untd.com|alwick@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_7ba8.3106.5ae1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Use fuel for your test if you can, just to be conservative. Test for alcohol, then pour it into jar. -al wick On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:47:26 -0600 "Wendell Voto" writes: Way to be thorough Wendell! I encourage the mason jar test too, just to make sure. -al wick I did put a cured sample into a jar of de-natured alcohol for a few weeks and no softness, I don't know how that would compare to fuel with alcohol but couldn't find any gasahol to expirement with. Anyone care to guess as to comparison of results? Wendell On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:21:40 -0600 "Wendell Voto" writes: I'm building with epoxy and was using West Systems because the boat people recommend it for fuel tanks. Out of curiosity, I e-mailed West Systems questioning the use of their epoxy with fuel with alcohol. They did not e-mail back but quickly phoned to tell me that it would not hold up to alcohol and suggested using Pro-Set 145 resin with Pro-Set 226 hardener. I used this as a coating on the Cozy tanks and also to bond the top skins onto the tanks. Wendell ----- Original Message ----- From: William To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Auto fuel Al, Your statement below could lead some to think that by adding more hardner to an epoxy mix that you could make it more resistant to fuel. I don't think that is what you meant, you might want to clarify it *and* provide the name/model of the epoxy that you tested. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 -al wick Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5 N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html -al wick Artificial intelligence in cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5 N9032U 200+ hours on engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon Prop construct, Subaru install, Risk assessment, Glass panel design info: http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html ----__JNP_000_7ba8.3106.5ae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Use fuel for your test if you can, just to be conservative. Test for=20 alcohol, then pour it into jar.
 
-al wick
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:47:26 -0600 "Wendell Voto" <jwvoto@itlnet.net> writes:
 

Way to be thorough Wendell! I encourage the mason jar test too, = just to=20 make sure.
 

-al wick

I did put a cured sample into a jar of=20 de-natured alcohol for a few weeks and no softness, I don't know = how=20 that would compare to fuel with alcohol but couldn't find any gasahol = to=20 expirement with.  Anyone care to guess as to comparison of=20 results?
 
Wendell
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:21:40 -0600 "Wendell Voto" <jwvoto@itlnet.net> writes:
I'm building with epoxy and was using West= =20 Systems because the boat people recommend it for fuel tanks. Out of=20 curiosity, I e-mailed West Systems questioning the use of their epoxy= with=20 fuel with alcohol.  They did not e-mail back but quickly phoned = to=20 tell me that it would not hold up to alcohol and=20 suggested using Pro-Set 145 resin with Pro-= Set=20 226 hardener. I used this as a coating on the Cozy tanks and= also=20 to bond the top skins onto the tanks.
 
Wendell
----- Original Message -----
= From:=20 William
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 18,= 2006=20 10:29 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Auto=20 fuel

Al,
Your statement below could lead = some to=20 think that by adding more hardner to an epoxy mix that you could = make it=20 more resistant to fuel. I don't think that is what you meant, you = might=20 want to clarify it *and* provide the name/model of the epoxy that = you=20 tested.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
 
 

-al wick
Artificial intelligence= in=20 cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on=20 engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install= ,=20 Risk assessment, Glass panel design=20 info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html<= BR>
 

-al wick
Artificial intelligence in= =20 cockpit, Cozy IV powered by stock Subaru 2.5
N9032U 200+ hours on=20 engine/airframe from Portland, Oregon
Prop construct, Subaru install, = Risk=20 assessment, Glass panel design=20 info:
http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/alwick/index.html
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